Minutes of the City Council - Regular Meeting - October 6, 2025 5:30 PM

CAMBRIDGE CITY COUNCIL VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN, CHAIR REGULAR MEETING TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS OCTOBER 6, 2025 5:30 PM, SULLIVAN CHAMBER

1 VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: (Gavel) Good evening, everyone. A quorum of the City Council being present, I call tonight's October 6th, 2025, Regular Meeting of the Cambridge City Council to order. The first order of business is a roll call of members present. Madam Clerk. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: (No response.) INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Absent. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: (No response.) INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Is absent. You have two members recorded as absent, and seven recorded as present. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. If willing and able, please join me in standing for the Pledge of Allegiance, and pause for a moment of silence. MEETING PARTICIPANTS: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. (PAUSE) VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Pursuant to Chapter 2 of the Acts of 2025 adopted by the Massachusetts General Court and approved by the Governor, the City is authorized to use remote participation at meetings of the Cambridge City Council. In addition to having members of the Council participate remotely, we have also set up Zoom teleconference for Public Comment. You can also view the meeting via the City's Open Meeting Portal or on the City's Cable Channel 22. To speak during Public Comment, you must sign up at cambridgema.gov/publiccomment. You can also email written comments for the record to the City Clerk at cityclerk@cambridgema.gov. We welcome your participation and you can sign up until 6:00 p.m. Please note that the City of Cambridge audio and video records this meeting and makes it available for the public for future viewing. In addition, third parties may also be audio and video recording this meeting. Just a sort of a note, at 6:30, we have to break from the Regular Meeting to go to the Tax Rate Public Hearing. And we have a separate -- the people we'll be calling now will be people who signed up to speak on the Regular Agenda. And then there's another public signup list that we'll do when we get to the Tax Rate. So, -- but just for folks who are in the audience, if we -- depending on how long things go,

2 we might have to interrupt the Regular Meeting and then go to the other Tax Rate Meeting and then come back. So, I just want to make sure people understand that. So, the first order of business is go to Public Comment. Public comment may be made in accordance with Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 30A, Section 20G, and City Council Rules 23D and 37. Once you have finished speaking, the next speaker will be called. Individuals are not permitted to allocate the remainder of their time to other speakers. Please state your name and address for the record, and the item that you're speaking on. And just to clarify, you are allowed to speak on any item on the City Council Agenda, with the exception of Awaiting Reports and Communications. There are 16 people signed up to speak, which means you will have three minutes each. And with that, we will go to Public Comment. Ms. Stephen. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Our first speaker is Catherine Ahearn, followed by Suzanne Blier, then Patrick Barrett. Catherine, you have three minutes. Please go ahead. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: You might have to press the button so that the green light comes on and pull that mic right -- real close. MS. CATHERINE AHEARN: Hello, thank you. My name is Catherine Ahearn. I live at 13, 7th Street in East Cambridge. I'm here regarding the Gold Star Park closure, Item 138 on today's Agenda. I want to first thank the City for its transparent and swift action with respect to the Gold Star Mothers Park soil testing. My family was both saddened and scared to learn of the toxic results, but the City's quick closure of the Gold Star spaces, and open publication of its findings and plans have been a small consolation. I am one who takes comfort in information and in action. My focus tonight is on the playground, and by extension, the safety of the area's families. For those here or listening, and for the record, the results published on September 11th regarding the Gold Star Playground specifically reported multiple levels of toxins at rates beyond even some of the charts and graphs that I referred to in order to interpret the results. For example, a Kansas State University chart of recommended soil lead levels limits tops out at 1,000 parts per million. The highest level measured at the Gold Star Playground is 8,200. North Carolina State University has published charts regarding levels of cadmium and arsenic in soil, which max out at 25, noting high risk at 16 parts per million. The highest cadmium measured at the playground is 210. For arsenic, it's 100. For PVCs, the State's own RCS1 limit is one. The highest measured at the playground is 68. And these are just a few examples. Since 2018, my husband and I have owned our home on 7th, where we now live with our baby, toddler, and dog. Gold Star Mothers Park was our backyard, and until recently, we began each day at the field's off-leash hours and picked up our kids at the playground before dinnertime. Their daycare, along with many others in East Cambridge, went to this park twice a day. It's here my toddler played under the water feature on hot summer days and embarked on her first snowy sled ride down the Gold Star small, but notable, hill. I note this hill because it's part of why we thought the playground toxin levels would be safe. As a playground designed not even 20 years ago, it was purposely elevated and constructed, as far as I understand it after talking to a City employee, in order to insulate the play space from, quote, “historical uses of the land”. So, tonight I ask simply and in good faith, what went wrong? And if officials thought the playground test would come back okay, and then they most certainly did not, what other playgrounds may not be safe for our families, despite our current assumptions that they are? Our daycare now brings its kids to Silver Park, not far from Gold Star. Other daycares and schools in the area go to the Kennedy Longfellow playgrounds, along with others. Can we please, please test these parks? Given the unexpected and dangerously toxic results at

3 Gold Star, I feel that we must, and that it is a moral obligation of the City to tell us its residents with certainty where our kids can play safely. Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Our next speaker is Suzanne Blier, followed by Patrick Barrett, then Sharmil Modi. Suzanne, you have three minutes. Please go ahead. MS. SUZANNE BLIER: Thank you. Suzanne Blier, 5 Fuller Place, and I'll wait to speak to Manager's Agenda Number 1. On Policy Order Number four, the zoning code related to the institutional use regulation compliance with State law, one of the serious problems with the ill-conceived February 10th upzoning was a mess it made of Cambridge, vis-a-vis the Dover Amendment. Please do not allow non-profit institutions, universities and others to take over more of our precious city land. We already are seeing a toehold of a foreign university campus in the residential neighborhood where I live. Please draft a resolution that we can take to the Statehouse to preserve the residential and commercial land we now have in our very tiny footprint of a city. Please also read and follow the letter of Helen Walker. On Charter right number 2, it addresses another problem with the February 10th upzoning, the impact on solar panels. Solar is one of the only ways that Cambridge and many other parts of New England, will be able to get viable energy because so much comes from Canada, which has been thwarted thanks, in part, to the Trump tariffs. Converting gas to electric, itself uses dirty fuel, and increasingly, electric costs are escalating because of needs for AI and labs. please return to residents the ability to add solar panels with the expectation that they will not be thwarted by taller buildings that are not consistent with neighborhoods. Thank you. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Our next speaker is Patrick Barrett, followed by Sharmil Modi, then Lisa Burke. Patrick, you have three minutes. Please go ahead. MR. PATRICK BARRETT: Thank you very much. Patrick Barrett, 907 Main Street. Here to speak on the Policy Order that was charter righted in dealing with solar panels and their effect, or to -- the petition to block them or to regulate heights of buildings, five and six stories. I've written to the Council already. I represent multiple projects in the City. And while I can tell you about the deleterious effects it'll have on those projects right now, the C1 zone is the largest zoning district in the city now by the creation of the Council. It's almost 65, 70 percent of the City? The effect of a change like this will probably not affect the small projects that don't include inclusionary units. In fact, projects on 5,000 square feet or less will probably proceed as they are currently proceeding. Anything above that threshold that looks to actually make use of the so-called bonus that we get through inclusionary zoning will absolutely not go forward. The amount of cost and time it takes to get a project of that size off to the races is about nine months. I already have several, currently one tonight that's going to go before the Mid Cambridge Conservation Chair, although I was told they don't have a quorum, so we're delayed for another two weeks -- the life of development in the city. So, we will go through that process, like we're going to go through the same thing on Story Street on the 9th. And nine months from that point forward, we may have a permit set that we can actually build on. And in that time, you’re going to change zoning again on us, and that's going to have an effect. And as you go up with setbacks to a building, you lose square footage, you lose size. And for what? I have been in the City for 20 years, and I've seen the CDD reports. Never have I seen a CDD

4 report that on so many pages told you not to do something, and that CDD report does that. Although I think that this Council had asked the CDD to tell us about the effects of maybe sailing on the Titanic, that they would come back with a report that says -- or at least gives you the pros and cons of navigating icebergs. They're never quite specific, but in this one, they kind of are. The effect is maybe an increase of 18 percent efficiency on houses. Also, the unknown, because we don't know how far and wide this will go. If you want to take a look at the multi-family housing zoning, you ought to take a look at it, but you ought to do it comprehensively. If you want to take a look at just protecting solar panels, you ought to weigh it against housing, because that's what you're doing. When you decide to do something like this in the C1 zone, what you're effectively saying is that there should be no five or six story buildings in the C1 zone. And that means that no one will be pushing forward on inclusionary units in those buildings because if we can't get to five and six, which we won't be able to do, then how -- why -- where is any bonus at all for inclusionary zoning? The question that you should be answering tonight. If you vote this in the affirmative tonight, you're effectively saying no to every project I represent. That is contrary to what I've heard so far. Thank you. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Our next speaker is Sharmil Modi, followed by Lisa Burke, then Ann McDonald. Sharmil, you have the floor, three minutes. MR. SHARMIL MODI: Thank you. Sharmil Modi, 271 Cambridge Street. Dear Members of City Council, I'm writing to strongly urge you to reject the proposed additional fifth and sixth story solar setbacks for new residential buildings. While the desire to protect existing and future solar may be well intended, the proposed setbacks, which I'll point out, are being entertained before a single new building permit has even been pulled under our nationally acclaimed new residential zoning. Those setbacks are tantamount to capping residential construction at four stories, especially on mid-sized lots, those in the 5,000 to 10,000 square foot range. Simply put, these setbacks are divorced from economic and construction reality. A typical apartment unit depth is 25 to 30 feet. That's from the front door to the exterior window wall, as deeper units and deeper unit depths can lead to awkward layouts and lack of natural light. As we all know, multi-family residential projects in Cambridge are extremely difficult to pencil as is, and developers need to take advantage of every efficiency possible, including utilizing regular rectangular unit layouts, stacking like unit floor plans directly above one another, and locating plumbing walls in adjacent units back-to-back. As such, a setback of even 10 feet from the front or rear bulk plane of the lower floors has the unintended effect of either A) rendering the units on those floors to be extremely shallow, for example, only 15 to 20 feet in depth; or B) requiring an entirely different unit layout on those floors consisting of fewer, more irregular and more costly units. In other words, five and six story buildings are significantly less likely to get built and more developers will be encouraged to pursue nine unit townhome projects versus four story multifamily. Sound familiar? If this Council truly wishes to see more residential units built in the City of Cambridge, this proposal unquestionably runs exactly counter to that goal. While the concern for future solar is understandable, Council would be better served to incentivize six story buildings to incorporate rooftop solar, and/or to compensate neighboring existing installations commensurately with the impact to their solar capture. I strongly encourage you to defeat this proposed measure, and to redirect the CDD towards finding more ways to lower the barriers to housing production, as opposed to expending City resources on yet another requirement to increase them. Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Before -- Ms. Stephen, before you call the next speaker. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Wilson?

5 COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Our next speaker is Lisa Burke, followed by Ann McDonald and Joel Nogic. Lisa, you have the floor, three minutes. Please go ahead. MS. LISA BURKE: Hi, thank you so much. My name is Lisa Burke. I'm from the Alewife Study Group. I live at 20 Castle Park. I want to thank specifically Councillors Nolan, Wilson and Toner for Policy Order 2025-142, Number 5 on the agenda. I want to thank you both for this Policy Order and for walking the paths on the IQHQ, the old Grace site, with the Alewife Study Group, and to City staff for walking these paths. This site, as you know, hosts the kids playing fields, Russell and Como, the MDC pool area, two playgrounds, the Alewife T, IQHQ's biotech development, and it is crisscrossed with the Minuteman and other heavily used paths. Now, for weeks, probably a year, a year and a half, Alewife Study Group, in collaboration with IQHQ, sends a newsletter to neighbors about construction issues because we're heavily affected by them. That's closed roads and noise, etcetera. This summer, the content of the newsletter changed radically from construction only to safety on the paths. People wrote in to say a child was pricked by a used needle at nearby Gibbons Park, that they had witnessed someone shooting up -- that happens a fair amount -- and that they worried about a kid seeing that. They wrote in to say to be alert for human feces, encampments, and campfires. You know from SeeClickFix how much this is happening. Many of us are worried for the safety of the unhoused and the housed. You have made a difference with the Wednesday collection of used needles on this site. It's an innovative program, and I'm thrilled about it. We understand 3,500 used needles were recovered in four weeks. Now we need this Policy Order and your ability to coordinate across many different property owners. There are five by my count. We believe this information gathering and report is an important first step to increasing safety for all. It's going to take more than one step, I'm sure of it. Please vote in favor of Policy Order 2025, Number 142, Agenda Item Number 5. And thank you for taking this step. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Our next speaker is Ann McDonald, followed by Joel Nogic, then James Zall. Ann, you have three minutes. Please go ahead. MS. ANN MCDONALD: Hi, my name is Ann McDonald. I live on Columbus Ave in the Whittemore area of North Cambridge, and I'm speaking on Policy Order Number 142. I walk the Linear path -- Park path around Russell Field and IQHQ to access the Alewife T headhouse, and along Whittemore Avenue and the Alewife Station Access Road to the Alewife Reservation stormwater wetlands, typically once or twice a day. So, as darkness closes in, this area is inconsistently maintained and lit and can feel unsafe. I could have reported hundreds of incidents of the need for needle pickups, or the frequent stink from the Alewife Brooks raw sewage over the years. I didn't, but I want to thank my neighbors for reporting the frequent needles, overflowing public trash receptacles, and fires, and the tent encampments on these paths. The Russell Field textile recycling bin is a ready source for scavenging for those in need, and I've seen just a pair of legs sticking out of the bin in the process of retrieval. And multiple people draped over the shopping carts in the Parkway Pond path, aka drug alley or scary path, as I walk on Alewife Station Access Road through the curved tunnel under Alewife Brook Parkway. So, I really want to thank the CARE team for completing frequent needle sweeps before we had the boxes in this area, the Casper Outreach Program van that daily brings food and water and other necessities to the unhoused residents of the area, and even DCR for alerting encampment residents

6 before their sub, NEDT, cleans out the encampments repeatedly that border our area pass. I was quite upset that the Linear Park renovation plans only show detour routes for bicyclists, and none for area pedestrians who use the Linear path daily to get to the Red Line in Russell Field and beyond. And I want to thank the Alewife Study Group, IQHQ, and the City Councillors who have put time and attention to the paths in this Alewife area, and are working together to offer safer, better lit detour options when Linear Park is under construction. Anyone who lives and walks in this area knows the responsibilities are complex and often fall between jurisdictions and institutions, Cambridge, the MBTA, DCR, and Arlington, with no owner even listed for the -- on the State database for the Parkway Pond area. So, quoting from Click and Fix, ownership of sidewalks and paths in this area is varied and confusing. And I just want to give a shout out to the unknown Cambridge employee who, last winter, took time to map out visually the ownership of many of the paths in the area to help bicyclists address spotty snow removal and resulting icy buildup and dangerous conditions. Pedestrians benefited. But all too often, the responses and issues in this area are as follows: Thank you for reporting this issue to the City of Cambridge. Unfortunately, the City is not able to address this. It's on MBTA property, or it's on DCR property. Ask them to investigate. We'll contact them but contact their community relations. So, I want to support the Policy Order’s intent, asking Cambridge to take a leadership role in coordinating with these institutions to ensure the area is safe for our kids and all residents, and report back and commit to managing these issues in an ongoing way. I also hope --. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: That’s -- Ann, that's your time. You can send the remainder of your comments to the City Clerk and the City Council. Thank you. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Our next speaker is Joel Nogic, followed by James Zall, then Ned Melanson. Joel, you have three minutes. Please go ahead. MR. JOEL NOGIC: Thank you, everybody. My name is Joel Nogic. I live at 94 Clifton Street, just next to Russell Field, and I have lived there, with my wife, and my daughter grew up there for 33 years, and 11 years in other parts of Cambridge. And I was a founding member, along with Lisa Burke, of the Alewife Study Group in 1995 to address big issues in the neighborhood, and we've been working on issues ever since, along with many, many other neighbors. I want to thank Councillors Wilson, Nolan, and Toner for the Policy Order Number 5 about the Alewife paths. And I want to thank Deputy Manager Kathy Watkins, who I understand has done three walks on the paths with other City staff, and also the Police Department. And so, I'm not going to repeat all the things that Lisa and Ann have said, and also that Eppa Rixey said in his letter to the City Council because he wasn't able to be here. But I'll just add a few things. In my 33 years of walking those -- and biking those paths over and over again, an average a few times a day, the amount of needles in -- on there and the dispersal of needles in many different locations, the amount of open drug use, the amount of -- the numbers of unhoused people, the number of encampments, and other things, has been manyfold increase since any other time that I've seen. And I do understand this is a regional problem, that when -- sometimes when encampments are cleared out, like on Mass and Cass, or in other parts of Cambridge, or whatever, they end up at places like here. So, I do appreciate that. And so, I hope that the City Council will back this ordinance, which is very reasonable, just asking the City Manager to collect information about what has been done and to report it to the City Council. And I want to encourage the City government and the Council to play a coordinating role, given what Lisa and others have said about the, you know, multiple ownership and so -- so that things don't

7 fall through the crack because this is not on our watch. Somebody needs to play a coordinating role. I say humbly that Alewife Study Group has played that role among citizens, and that has been very good. And I would like the City to not just report back, but also play a coordinating role within the community, with groups like Alewife Study Group, and other property owners like the T, DCR, IQHQ, and so forth, to try to make long-term solutions to these problems. I think that's all I want to say and thank you very much for your attention to this. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Our next speaker is James Zall, followed by Ned Melanson, then Edward Stewart. James, you have three minutes. Please go ahead. MR. JAMES ZALL: Thank you. This is James Zall, 203 Pemberton Street, and I'm speaking about the Policy Order on zoning changes for solar panels. Rooftop solar panels are far from the best way to generate electricity in terms of efficiency and the environment. If the Council is concerned about energy efficiency and climate change, there are better ways to address energy issues than this. There's the -- well, I'm not going to list them because I'm sure you know them, the City electricity production option for residents and other things. Also, I hope you consider the negative environmental effects that this proposal would have on the environment, housing near jobs would -- more housing near jobs would mean less traffic, less greenhouse gas emissions, and bring a host of benefits to the city. And this proposal, as CDD has pointed out, would result in slices being taken out of housing units to maintain solar panels when there are far better ways to do this. I hope you seriously consider, hopefully rejecting, or at best, finding an alternate way to preserve the environment while still removing the barriers to badly needed housing. Thank you. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Thank you. Our next speaker is Ned Melanson, followed by Edward Stewart, then Raffi Freeman. Ned, you have three minutes. Please go ahead. MR. NED MELANSON: Hi, I’m Ned Melanson, 163 Alston Street. I'm speaking out against Policy Order 137, the zoning changes related to the solar panels. I think a lot of speakers have already talked about this in detail, but this really seems to me like a down zoning in green clothing. You know, if you reduce the available square footage on the top floors, you’re -- what you're really doing is taking those squares -- sorry, taking those floors out entirely. And, you know, we know we want to discuss the down zoning, that should be brought forward as its own Policy Order, but you know doing it this way, I think it's really unfair from a democratic and notice perspective. As other speakers have noted, there's a lot better ways to increase environmental resiliency in Cambridge. And I don't think that we should be sacrificing the much needed housing supply for rooftop solar on residential buildings when things like community solar are actually much more efficient and generate a lot more renewable energy. Of course, I'm for rooftop solar, but, you know, everything needs to be taken from a holistic approach, and we need to balance the needs of homeowners and people who have rooftop solar installations with the needs for people to actually live in these buildings that we so desperately need. And, you know, there's also -- for people that currently have solar, you know, installations, and those could be potentially threatened by taller buildings, reducing the efficiency of those panels, there's plenty of ways that already exist that we can make those homeowners and solar owners whole, whether that's through buyouts, whether -- you know, like I said, that's through investments in community solar that are much cheaper and much better for the entire city, rather than what is effectively a down zoning and essentially reversing the multifamily housing upzoning that was done in February. So, that's my thoughts there. And I would also just like to comment on the Policy Order related to ICE incidents in

8 Cambridge. So, I think the City is really a leader in the country on its response to ICE, and we need to keep the foot on the pedal there. You know, I'm very concerned about information that's being shared, and how there's -- I believe there was, you know, close to zero detainer requests sent to CPD, and that seems to be wildly off, given anecdotal evidence and chatter in the community about ICE sightings. So, again, I applaud the City for what it's done so far, and just, you know, encourage discussion and really, really strong responses, including what can be done about clearly unconstitutional sweeps and federal agents utilizing masks and not identifying themselves on the street of Cambridge. Thank you. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Our next speaker is speaker number 10, Edward Stewart, followed by Raffi Freeman, then Lance Green. Edward, you have three minutes. Please go ahead. MR. EDWARD STEWART: -- Stewart, 146 Huron Avenue. We've lived in Cambridge for over 40 years. Thirty years ago, I opened up my retail shop in this location. And 15 years ago, we were able to purchase the building along with the land. We're retiring. We put the property up for sale. And aside from the building, we have a vacant lot in the back, over 5,000 square feet, completely buildable lot, nice, clean lot. We have an interested buyer. He actually wants to put an apartment building in there, 20 percent affordable units. And with this proposal to do the setbacks on the fifth and sixth floors, we'll be losing -- or the developer will be losing so much square footage, it's not going to be viable. They will walk away. And what will be left is marketing that lot to a developer who will build four townhouses, just slightly less than 2,500 square feet, so they stay under the 10,000 square foot limit. And we'll have four luxury townhouses in the back, and absolutely zero affordable housing. I don't think the trade-off for solar panels is worth that. I think we need to vote no on this. Thank you very much. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Our next speaker is Raffi Freeman, followed by Lance Green, then James Williamson. Raffi, if you can unmute yourself, you have three minutes. Please go ahead. MR. RAFFI FREEMAN: Thank you. Raffi Freeman, Prospect Street. I want to open up with the context that in my professional life, a large part of how I spend my time is developing large-scale solar projects in Africa. And also, I have solar panels on my house here in Cambridge, and also a separate solar system on a rental property here in Cambridge. I did the rough math on how much actual production solar energy provides from residential rooftops in the city. If you do the math, there's probably something like five megawatts of residential solar in the city, in a city that consumes hundreds of megawatts, or potentially over a gigawatt. That's only 1 percent of peak power. When you multiply that by a typical 13 percent capacity factor on solar in Massachusetts, that amounts to something like 0.1 to 0.2 percent of our power production in the city. Unfortunately, it's just not that impactful. I wish it was more impactful, but it's not. I think it's super important to be grounded in the facts when we're making decisions like this. Installing solar on our residential rooftops is a nice thing to do and helpful, but unfortunately, just not that helpful, and more of a rounding error when it comes to the city's climate change impact in a dense urban environment. I want to say it again, residential solar is not a meaningful path to climate change mitigation in Cambridge. The roofs are just too small, and the capacity factors are too low. Restricting structures that are near solar panels will probably cut back around 10 to 30 percent of the developments made possible under the multifamily housing zoning. Those of you on the Council who are sponsors of this legislation, you're unfortunately, perhaps unintentionally undermining the pioneering and exciting work that you did. Our lots are simply not big enough and projects not profitable

9 enough to survive setbacks and restrict development in this type of material way. Again, I'm someone who has solar panels on my house. I hope someone puts a large building next to me, shades my house, and builds 100 or more new units next to me. You cannot live in a dense city and expect the shade dynamics around you will not change in the future. Nobody has that right or should have that right. When you put solar on your house in a dense city, you take some risk that in the future there will be more shade. The social impact of building more housing, and indeed the environmental benefits of building more housing, are far more important than losing a few hundred or thousand kilowatt hours in a property of solar production. Like other speakers have said, there are more efficient ways to decarbonize, including electricity, like building community solar in places where land is more abundant and cheaper. I appreciate that this is a patchy time before the election, and this measure is inviting bad optics. No one wants to be seen as voting against solar energy. I vote for solar energy every single day with my professional time and money, but I would vote against this specific measure. I hope we can make decisions here based on the real impact and trade-off. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Thank you, Raffi. Your time has expired. Please email the remainder. Our next speaker is Lance Green, followed by James Williamson, then Nicola Williams. Lance? You have three minutes. Please go ahead. MR. LANCE WILLIAMS: Hello. Thank you, Honorable Vice Mayor McGovern, and the Cambridge City Councillors. Just want to note, I was born in this great city about 56 years ago at Cambridge City Hospital. I resided for many years at 29 Fairfield Street in North Cambridge. My father grew up here with the great Mayor Walter Sullivan. So, I grew up here and went to M.E. Fitzgerald School, Madeline High School, and in my early 20s, I left for New York City to pursue an acting career. I returned as a realtor and tried to raise my family in the city, but unfortunately unable to afford it, and I landed in next door in Arlington about 18 years ago. As a Cambridge realtor, I am currently working on numerous projects that I am selling or advising builders on that will potentially add hundreds of inclusionary units desperately needed. I'm here to express my concern regarding the Policy Order 137. While I understand the intention behind the measure, I know its passage would inadvertently hinder the progress of inclusionary housing development in our community. Though solar energy is important, there's enough technology in the solar arena to allow for solar optimizers to be added to a solar array that is inadvertently affected by any shade. The solar technology is there, and unfortunately, inclusionary housing will not be, should this item pass. I want to note that the numerous builders I work with are currently interested in contributing to affordable housing projects and may find themselves forced to shift their focus towards constructing luxury town homes instead. This pivot would effectively reduce the availability of much-needed inclusionary housing options, thereby affecting the socio-economic diversity that Cambridge values. I urge you to consider the broader implications of this Agenda item and the potential impact on our city's housing landscape. Please vote against item -- this item, and I support the continued development of inclusionary and diverse housing options in Cambridge, with a non-change to the new zoning -- to the new zoning for at least two years. I want to further note that tabling this item for future vote signals fear to my builders, and the delay will have them to pivot to luxury townhomes instead. Thank you for your attention to this critical matter. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Thank you.

10 Our next speaker is James Williamson, followed by Nicola Williams, then Justin Saif. James, you have three minutes. Please go ahead. MR. JAMES WILLIAMSON: Can you hear me? EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: We can. MR. JAMES WILLIAMSON: Thank you. I want to speak about the proposed appointments to the Cambridge Housing Authority Board of Commissioners. The City Manager has violated the law in how he went about this. And it's not as if he didn't know, because this process, specifically choosing a -- the tenant representative on the CHA Board of Commissioners, we went through that, and -- last year, and the Manager should be well aware of what the law requires. The law is very clear. Within 10 days of a vacancy -- the tenant vacancy is what I'm speaking to, the Manager is required to notify legitimate tenant organizations, the citywide organization, which is the Alliance of Cambridge Tenants, and any local tenant council, of the fact of there being a tenant vacancy. Then after 60 days -- after 60 days, those organizations, if they so choose, and if they can get it together, are empowered to submit lists of the proposed -- of the tenant representative, no less than two and no more than five. Here's what happened. The Manager tried to pull a fast one at the end, just before the summer break, and moved a person who had applied to a non-tenant seat over to -- when the tenant seat became vacant, the Manager put in the City Agenda, the Council Agenda, an appointment of a tenant who had applied to a non-tenant open seat, and with another appointment to that open seat. So, reshuffling the deck, ignoring this process entirely. Apparently, a member of the Council, a prominent member who I will not mention, complained that this would result in a not very diverse, or an all-white Board of the Cambridge Housing Authority Board of Commissioners. So, those proposals, those items on the Agenda were withdrawn. Then the Manager advertised that applicants would submit their applications to the Manager, not to the recognized tenant organizations, and that they would respond within 30 days. No. So, do the tenants in CHA housing have a right to choose their own representative, or don't we? By the way, there's no evidence that the ACT have endorsed any of the names that were submitted. And it's not going to be a five-year term. It's going to be a more like -- VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: James, -- MR. JAMES WILIAMSON: -- a three year term. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: James, that's your time. Please email us the rest of your comments. Thank you. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Our next speaker is Nicola Williams, followed by Justin Saif, then Charles Franklin. Nicola, you have three minutes. Please go ahead. MS. NICOLA WILLIAMS: Good evening, everyone. Nicola Williams, 8 Brewer Street. First, I'd like to touch on the -- I'm saddened to learn that Mr. Red T. Mitchell, of his passing on September 18th, and I sincerely feel for his family, my deep condolences. I worked with Mr. Mitchell on the Prince Hall monument, which was a very important project for him and the City of Cambridge, will - - this will have an important legacy on the Cambridge Common, you know, to perpetuity. I will also plant a tree in Mr. Mitchell's memory. I wanted to touch on the PO for the solar roofs, from health and environment. As an environmentalist, I generally support efforts for the City to limit our impact on the environment, decarbonize, including the promotion of solar panels. I feel like given the complexities of our city's zoning, I think this proposal warrants further discussion and hope that it will move to the appropriate City Council Committee. I look forward to

11 further engagement on this matter, and thanks for your consideration. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Thank you. Our next speaker is Justin Saif, followed by Charles Franklin. Justin, you have three minutes. Please go ahead. MR. JUSTIN SAIF: Good evening, Justin Saif, 259 Hurley. The solar protection Policy Order before you this evening has brought in what seems like bad faith and out of NIMBYism, rather than concerns for reducing carbon pollution. In fact, it's most likely that this would increase carbon pollution because it leads to suburban deforestation, as well as suburban development of large single family homes and communities where, you know, lacking public transit and residents are forced to rely entirely on their vehicles for travel. In addition, this encourages very large, very expensive homes in Cambridge, as you heard, instead of building inclusionary multifamily buildings. And inclusionary multifamily buildings in Cambridge are incredibly green buildings. They're built to the passive house standard. They're all electric with no gas hookups. And it's rather ironic that we would block some of the greenest possible residential construction probably in America for the possibility, not the actuality, merely the possibility that there could be partial shade on a solar system somewhere for some portion of the year, or none. There may not be any solar around and it's still blocked. I have spoken with builders. You've heard builders tonight say that it's very clear that these step backs are both structurally and economically infeasible to make the social housing, that was on last week's Agenda that everyone was excited about, impossible to build. Step backs blocked housing under the Somerville Affordable Housing Overlay until Just A Start successfully petitioned the Somerville City Council to have them removed. I hope we can explore workable solutions but unfortunately the step backs presented here are not --. On the institutional use Policy Order, I think you had required the Solicitor to opine on the vulnerability of the previous version of Cambridge's exemption that relied on exclusionary housing and drove up the cost of housing in Cambridge. It appears from the outcome of the lawsuit that that was likely vulnerable from the outset, regardless of any of the recent zoning changes. And finally, I do hope you test all of the parks in East Cambridge to see if any of the other ones where my kids and their soccer teams play have heavy metal contamination, like we now know Gold Star Park does. Thank you. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Thank you. Our final speaker is Charles Franklin. Charles, you have the floor, three minutes. Please go ahead. MR. CHARLES FRANKLIN: Good evening, Council. Charles Franklin, 162 Hampshire Street. I'm here to speak in favor of setbacks, maybe not necessarily this specific proposal, but in general. While there have been, and still are, many tools that mostly serve to stop development, setback requirements do not have to be among them. Protecting solar installations is important. Maintaining sky visibility for the increased number of people who will live here with our new zoning is important. The new zoning, even with setbacks, will result in so much more housing than compared to before. I think it's okay to shave a little bit off the top in exchange for some other concerns. In addition, some of the world's most stunning architecture is part of the result of setbacks and mandated requirements. Paris, New York, Chicago, they all have both low and high rise neighborhoods with setbacks and plenty of density. Maybe the numbers on this proposal need to be adjusted, but let's at least take this next step and keep the conversation going. Another similar addendum, there are lots of non-luxury row houses in DC and neighborhoods that are just as dense or more dense than ours currently. And before anybody tries to call me anti- housing, don't forget I supported the original six story as of right multifamily petition. So, definitely still

12 pro housing. Thank you. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Mr. Chair, it looks like we have one more speaker, Heather Hoffman. Heather, you have the floor, three minutes. Please go ahead. MS. HEATHER HOFFMAN: Hello, Heather Hoffman, 213 Hurley Street. I did sign up for the correct meeting, but it decided that I actually signed up for the Ordinance Committee Meeting tomorrow. Go figure. I would like to discuss bad faith and solar panels for a moment. I'm so glad to see that anything anyone ever does that could ever interfere with building bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger is in bad space. And that greenness can be in just as much bad faith as anything else. What I would say is that this was brought up. You could have looked at it when you were so bent on passing the massive upzoning. You could also have looked at the institutional use regulations, which were also brought up. But it was way too important to plow ahead with something and then think about the consequences later. Perhaps it will occur to you to do something differently in the future, but I doubt it. With respect to the linkage Nexus Study, sure, have a Nexus Study. I have heard from people who spoke earlier tonight and didn't mention this, that they've called for an inclusionary zoning Nexus Study because 20 percent is too big. Who knows? With respect to the Zero Emissions Transportation Plan, I would like to know how you're working to improve public transit; how you're working to improve things for pedestrians, especially pedestrians who are not young, fit, without any mobility or vision disabilities; and where do we think that delivery drivers and the Uber and Lyft drivers live? Are we thinking about any of that stuff? With respect to Gold Star Mothers Park and Russell Field, as is well known to the Alewife Study Group, because this is why they exist, there is a huge amount of asbestos right by Russell Field which is going to be dug up, tons and tons. According to the answer to the question I asked at a meeting, we're talking about 500 truckloads of dirt being taken out of that field for the MBTA Hi-Line Tunnel. Plus, the digging that the City is in fact going to be doing on Linear Park. And so, yeah, let us actually do the drilling and check these things, because the City of Cambridge should have absolutely zero, zero grace on that. Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Thank you, Heather. Okay, so that's --. EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NAOMIE STEPHEN: Mr. Chair, that concludes all that were signed up to speak. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. So, on a motion by Councillor Zusy to close Public Comment, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: (Response not audible.) INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner?

13 COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent. You have members recorded in the affirmative, and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. So, we have nine minutes before we have to switch over to the Tax Rate, and we need a few minutes for IT to switch over to the new -- the other public speakers. So, I'm actually going to ask that we take a recess for nine minutes. Oh, Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Vice Mayor, I was just going to say, I guess, just so that we're on the same page, should we just choose what we're picking from the City Manager's Agenda, so folks can go home if they’re not being pulled? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Oh, we could do that. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes, I support that. And then we could pass the ones that have no discussion. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: That sounds good. Well, the only -- I mean, the only thing -- UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Number 1. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: -- no, that's right. No, we're good. That's right. Councillor Siddiqui, do you want to pull? No? Pleasure of the Committee? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Number 7. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Vice Mayor? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Number 8. COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: 4 and 6, please. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: 4 and 6. Anything else? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Mr. Vice Mayor? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. 1 and 2, please. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Nobody's going home. Okay, so we have pulled 1 and 2, Councillor Wilson; 4 and 5 by Councillor Zusy. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: No, she said -- COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Oh, 4 and 6. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: -- 4 and 6. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: 4 and 6. I’m sorry, it's my fault, 4 and 6; 7 by Councillor Toner; and 8 by Councillor Nolan. So, on the balance, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan?

14 COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent. You have eight members recorded in the affirmative and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. We now have six minutes. COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Do we want to approve Communications and Resolutions. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: We have to move -- to move suspension and bounce around. I mean, I guess we could. (BACKGROUND CHAT) VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: All right. Just trying to keep it organized, but all right. Councillor Toner -- COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Mr. Vice Mayor --. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: -- moves suspension of the rules to bring forward Communications. I guess we don't need a roll call, right? Because -- INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: We're going out of order. So, yes. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yeah. Okay. Roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent. You have made eight members recorded in the affirmative and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay.

15 COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Motion to place all on file. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: On a motion by Councillor Toner to place Communications on file, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent. You have eight members recorded in the affirmative and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. On to Resolutions. COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Motion to suspend the rules to bring those forward. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: I'm suspending the motion by Councillor Toner to suspend the rules to bring forward Resolutions. Roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent. You have eight members recorded in the affirmative and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. Resolutions are now before us.

16 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Motion to adopt. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: I do want to -- I want to be at -- I'd like to pull one of them. Is any -- anyone else pulling any others? All right. So, I'm going to pull Number 7. One 1 through 6, making unanimous upon adoption. Roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. And Mayor Simmons is absent. Eight members recorded in the affirmative and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Number 7 is condolences on the death of Kate Frank. I just would like to be added. Kate was a -- I’ve known Kate a long time and was a longtime friend. So, on adding my name to the Resolution, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent. You have eight members recorded in the affirmative and one recorded as absent.

17 VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: On the Resolution as amended, making unanimous upon adoption. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent. You have eight members recorded in the affirmative and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. The other thing we could do while we're waiting is Communications and Reports from other City Officers. There are two. I'm assuming we're going to want to talk about the second one, because that has to do with the ICE report. But the first one we can dispense with. So, on sus- -- INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Suspend. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: So, on suspending the rules to bring forward Communications and Reports from other city Officers, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes.

18 INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent. Eight members recorded in the affirmative and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: On adopt -- on placing on file, Communication Report from other City Officers, Number 1, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent. You have eight members recorded in the affirmative and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: All right. And 6:29 --. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: We could probably do --. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: And we --. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: We could do Committee Reports -- COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: We have a minute -- COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: -- we could do Committee Reports into ordinance. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: No. We’re -- right up on --. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Okay. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yeah. Okay. So, we are now going to recess the Regular City Council Meeting and move over into the Tax Rate Classification Meeting. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Take a vote. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Hmm? INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Take a vote to recess. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. We’ll, we have -- it’s -- we have 30 seconds. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Thirty seconds. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Anybody have a good joke? (BACKGROUND CHAT) VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Welcome, everyone. Hope you're having a good time. A lot of new faces out there. Not sure what brings you all out tonight, but welcome. All right. Let's get to it. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Are we are moving?

19 VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: We are moving. I'm going to call this. The time of 6:30 having arrived, the Council will recess the regular city Council meeting and move -- INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Vote for the recess. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Oh, we have to vote for recess? INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: On the recess, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent. You have eight members recorded in the affirmative and one recorded as absent. (REGULAR MEETING RECESSED AT 6:31 p.m. TO MOVE TO TAX RATE CLASSIFICATION PUBLIC MEETING AT 6:30 p.m. REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING RESUMED AT 7:42 p.m.) VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: All right. We now are back. I'm going to have to reopen it, and you know, we're going to do another roll call on reopening the Regular City Council Meeting. Madam Clerk? INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Is it present? INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes, say present. Present. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler?

20 COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent. You have one member recorded as one member recorded as absent and eight recorded as present. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. And I will -- Mayor Simmons, I did not mention this at the beginning, but she's at a School Committee -- Special School Committee Meeting about the Superintendent. So, hopefully she'll be joining us after that. So, now we go back to the City Manager's Agenda items. The first Item, Number 1, is a communication transmitted from Yi-an Huang, City Manager, relative to Awaiting Report Item Number 25-55 relative to guidance during ICE encounters, pulled by Councillor Wilson. Councillor Wilson, before -- do you want to move suspension to bring forward Communication Reports from other City Officers, Number 2? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes, that's exactly what I was going to do. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you, Vice Mayor. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: On suspension to bring forward Communication and Reports from Other City Officers, Number 2, which reads -- find the page -- reads, a communication was received from Commissioner Elow, Cambridge Police Department, transmitting a memorandum regarding compliance with the Welcoming City Ordinance section 2.129.060, which mandates that a statistical breakdown of ICE interactions with the Cambridge police. On suspension. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent.

21 You have eight members recorded in the affirmative and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: On bringing forward Communication Reports from Other City Officers, Number 2, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons is absent. You have eight members recorded in the affirmative and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Both matters are now before us. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you, Mr. Vice Chair. I want to appreciate the memo, but also the conversation forward, and would like to turn it over to the City Manager and Commissioner Elow, or anyone else at the table, to kind of share and just kind of the updates of what we have before us, and any additional information that you may have. Thank you. CITY MANAGER YI-AN HUANG: Sure. I think I can maybe provide a quick summary, through you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mr. Manager, before you -- before you do that, the Mayor is on Zoom. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: (No audible response.) INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: (No audible response.) VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay, we'll come back. Mr. Manager? CITY MANAGER YI-AN HUANG: Through you, Vice Mayor. I think I’ll provided just a quick summary to -- I think we're continuing to hear and experience in our region just a tremendous amount of increased enforcement. And so, when I talk to City leaders in Lynn or Chelsea, or some of our other gateway cities, there is a lot of activity happening. We are not seeing the same amount of direct activity in the City of Cambridge, but I do appreciate the Policy Order and the need for us to get more organized. And I hope this response -- appreciate the work that City staff have done just to go line by line and talk through how we're engaging

22 and supporting folks in the community. And I'm happy to have more discussion and answer questions about this. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. Just wanted to turn it off. So, to Commissioner Elow, if you have anything to add? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Commissioner Elow? POLICE COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE ELOW: Sure. Thank you. Other than the update that we provided everybody, I think the only additional thing that I will say is that there were two additional interactions that we had in September where we had ICE Agents that we saw on a city street in Cambridge that we engaged with. It was just brief. They didn't ask us for anything. We didn't do anything, but we did see them in our city. And then also there was an ICE interaction where they came in and used our bathroom on September 12th, and then said, hi to the Clerk, do you have any information? And they said, we do not cooperate with ICE. So, those are the only two additional interactions that we've had since our last report. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. And thank you for that update and for this memo. I just want to add, I mean, obviously we are seeing such an uptick across the Commonwealth, across the regions. And, you know, just today I think in The Globe they had the article in terms of Chelsea specifically, and even just the decline in the school system, the school enrollment over the last, you know, several months from the end of last year to this -- to the start of this school year, due to people’s fears. Now, I know we don't have our Superintendent kind of available, but just curious about like where are we at, are we hearing anything about just the fears and worries on the on the ground? Anyone from like our Department of Human Services or anything that are just kind of seeing a decline in any of our numbers, whether it's in our schools, after school programs, anything of that sort? UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Is that for me? CITY MANAGER YI-AN HUANG: Through you, Vice Mayor. I think we can follow up with the schools, and maybe -- maybe get a broader sense. My anecdotal sense is yes, but I don't have data behind that. But certainly, when I speak with families or community members, I hear a lot of people having a lot of concerns, you know, trying to figure out when to leave their homes and how to be careful. And I think some of the update that we're providing, and some of the work that we're doing, is to ensure that as we're interacting with people and providing information, we're helping people prepare and also know where the resources are. We do have Carolina Almonte, who is our Executive Director for the Commission on Immigrant Rights and Citizenship online as well. So, do you want to jump in at all on that? IMMIGRANT RIGHTS AND CITIZENSHIP EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CAROLINA ALMONTE: Yeah, happy to. Hi, nice to see you. And through you, Vice Mayor McGovern. Thank you for this opportunity to respond to this Policy Order. It's nice to see you all. I'm just now returning back from maternity leave as of a week ago. So, I really appreciate everyone that came together to help me keep this work moving along while I was away. And just to kind of -- you know, I could piggyback on what Yi-An said that, you know, we're hearing a lot of concerns from our community members who are scared. Our goal with CIRC is to remain a hub of information. So, we do continuously update our website with resources. We are in a process of specifically creating resources for after-hours assistance,

23 including some of the organizations that I have listed in this memo. We wanted to also just remind folks that we do have a 24/7 interpretation hotline for staff to use through our Language Justice Division, and that covers over 100 languages. And we’ve found that this hotline has been very effective meeting community needs, and that's specifically for staff. Then we have a separate public-facing hotline for community members. And that right now, really we're, you know, continuing with the Know Your Rights trainings with meeting with our community partners. And we understand that the City is really looking for both legal services, so we're always in close connection with De Novo, with our legal clinic, as well as other organizations that provide additional supports. So, really, I would encourage, you know, the public and others to continue reaching out to CIRC for direct help and guidance as we continue this important work. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Councillor Wilson, and then --. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. And through you, Vice Mayor. Thank you, and congratulations on your bundle of joy. I just -- I really want to appreciate you just lifting up like the continuation of the Know Your Rights trainings, and just like making sure that members of our community are aware that they can be, and should be, participating in that, in addition to our staff, right? And just other community members can join these spaces. I know earlier in the fall -- in the fall, sorry, earlier in the winter, I guess, we were having conversations where they were a little more separated, right? And so, I'm curious, are they still separated or are these, uh, like when's the next session and is it open to everyone? IMMIGRANT RIGHTS AND CITIZENSHIP EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CAROLINA ALMONTE: Sure, thank you for the question, and through you, Vice Mayor. So, as of now, we do have recorded Know Your Rights trainings on our website. We are definitely interested in creating some more and thinking about which other community members we should make sure have this information. I also wanted to share that we have been in contact with the Massachusetts Office for Refugees and Immigrants at the State level, and they will be providing bystander intervention trainings, both for City staff and residents, and those will -- those trainings will take place in a few weeks. So, those are the next set of trainings we will do. And then our plan is to then kind of reassess and see what other training options we should offer. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Great. Thank you so much. As of now, I have no further questions. I just want to thank you all for the update and for the work on the ground. It's a lot of hard work, and obviously this worry and fear that's coming throughout all of our communities, it's really terrifying, and obviously we want to see families stay together and be safe and not feel like they're in fear of just either going out for a walk, going to school, going to get groceries, those kinds of things, like dealing -- you know, doing their daily life. So, thank you all for the work that you're doing and providing to the community. Thank you. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Before I go to Councillor Siddiqui, Madam Clerk? INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Present. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Present. COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Thank you. Through you. Echo Councillor Wilson's remarks, and I'll just further say that I appreciated the overview of all the things that we're already doing, and other organizations are doing, and how we can best support

24 them. And I know that we added some additional funding in this year's budget to expand our partnership with De Novo beyond the monthly legal clinics and helping De Novo with having a part- time legal staff member to take on more cases. And I know maybe a few meetings ago I had asked, you know, just if we could get some input on how that's been going with De Novo. I don't need any specifics tonight, but maybe I can follow up with you directly and just see, because if -- I'd be curious if they need more than a part-time person in the future, but just wanted to get a sense of that. But I think it's important that we did that, and that's one thing we were able to enhance given what what's happening, and really what's to come. So, just wanted to make that comment. Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Pleasure of Council? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Mr. Vice Mayor? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mayr Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. Just quickly, in the Cambridge Public Schools right now, we're not seeing a lot of attrition, but we're also not seeing a lot of newcomers either. So, we’re -- there's nothing -- so, I know there's the feeling that our students are not coming to school anymore. That is not the case. But we did see a slowing of newcomers coming into our schools. In terms of trainings and things of that nature, the City Manager may have already spoken about this, given the circumstance we had just recently, and I want to just thank Carolina and her Office, and many, many others that kind of came together to help this one family, we learned a few things. One of the things is that there's certain things that we don't know. There's certain things that we have to do better. I know that there was talk -- there was some conversation about how having a bystander training. I think that's still going forward. But in addition, there are things that we could do to assist our families that we weren't necessarily doing. So, we're beginning to talk about that, not only for the schools, but what I call frontline folks, people that sit at the front desk of any organization that get confronted with the presence of ICE, what they should do. So, we are very vigilant. We're paying attention, and we're trying to do as much as we can, as fast as we can, in the event that we do have a rush of ICE presence in our community. So, I yield the floor. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you, Madam Mayor. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Quickly and thank you everyone who worked on this and brought this forward. I want to express thanks for the fact that we are coordinating services with others. That in order to do this more quickly, we're coordinating, as the memo states, that LUCE already has this 24-hour -- and BIJAN, have a family hotline. I'm really glad that we are collaborating with existing organizations because that allowed us to do it much more quickly. And that if they can use our language justice hotline, it just seems like that's a really good model for us as we build on what others are already doing successfully, and moving forward to protect our most vulnerable, these residents who are being ripped off the streets. I do have a question on the statistical breakdown, the ICE interactions. I understand that none of these detainer requests or administrative warrants, we would not get notice of someone just walking down the street or ICE performing on the street. We had -- we had some reports that they were going into, you know, H Mart or others. We would

25 not get that, right? So, that would not be captured by this, or am I wrong on that? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Madam Commissioner? POLICE COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE ELOW: Through you, Vice Mayor. We have asked, and I think we put it out publicly, that if there are interactions, you can call our emergency or non-emergency line and we will respond, check, make sure that they -- who are the people there, document the interaction. So, that is happening. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: So, that means from -- if we ever get reports of something happening on the streets, which we have gotten, instead of reacting, I think, should we check with you to make sure? Because what I don't want to do is instill and have the fear spread through the community, but I've certainly heard various reports that this is happening, and it's important for us. We know it could happen anywhere. We know it's happening in Chelsea. We know for sure it's happened in Somerville. However, I think it is also important that we're dealing with correct information. So, what would be the best way for us to verify that, before we amplify it or refute it? POLICE COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE ELOW: Through you, Vice Mayor. What we're saying is that we're asking people to call 911, or a non-emergency line, if you see ICE and the police will respond. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Okay. Thank you. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. And I was going to ask sort of a similar thing. I mean, I see a lot of reports online, you know, that ICE is in the City and is at a particular location, and then I call you or try to verify it and it turns out it's not. And so, I just -- I do want to implore folks in the community that, you know, we -- it -- we can't - - every time you see an SUV, or you see something, you can't assume it's ICE, and you don't want to get in a situation where it's sort of -- you know, what's the kid's story, calling wolf and, you know, whatever. Because when you go online and you say ICE is at this location, people -- you know, people get rightfully really concerned and really scared. And if that's not true, it continues to give the impression. I mean, so far, right, there's been an uptick from last year. We see that in the numbers, not a huge one. But, you know, knock on wood, so far, we have been under the radar compared to a lot of our neighboring communities. And so, you know, that doesn't -- I don't want to give people a false sense of security either, because this could all change two minutes from now, right? Especially with this Administration. And so, you know, I don't want to sort of pretend that, oh, don't worry about it, it's not going to happen here. It's probably going to happen here at some point in much bigger numbers. Flip side of that is I also don't want people being afraid of things that aren't actually happening. So, if it's LUCE that they call, or it's the police that they call, confirm -- have someone confirm it before you go out and say ICE is in a particular location. Last question for me. And if I'm -- if you said this in your opening, I'm sorry. The person who was abducted by ICE for the shoplifting coming out of the Police Department, that's not -- is it -- was that after August's, or is it after this -- what this report covers or --? POLICE COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE ELOW: That was our first -- the first one that actually came -- the first -- the only person they took from custody that was in, you know -- that -- yeah, that they took after we got -- after they got bailed out, they picked up. So, it was one person they picked up from -- VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: I just couldn't remember the date. POLICE COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE ELOW: -- last May. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: I’m just having a brain lapse on the date, so. Madam Solicitor?

26 CITY SOLICITOR MEGAN BAYER: To you, Mr. Vice Mayor. Just to clarify that the report in front of you is because the Welcoming Community Ordinance asks for every six months reporting on detainers, but we're not seeing ICE serve the Police Department with detainers because they know that the Police Department doesn't honor detainers. So, the example where the person was picked up, that was after they had left -- VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yeah, okay. CITY SOLICITOR MEGAN BAYER: -- the police report. POLICE COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE ELOW: Right. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: It wasn't the police report turning them over to ICE. POLICE COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE ELOW: Right. CITY SOLICITOR MEGAN BAYER: So, that's why they're not captured on this report. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: So, maybe -- okay. Maybe, especially during this particular time where everything is heightened, maybe -- I know you -- this report meets the criteria that we asked for, but maybe there's an opportunity to further explain things in this report that maybe gives a fuller picture to every -- even if it's not required in the report, you know, to put some information in there so that -- I know a number of people sort of asked, well, wait a minute, we heard that this happened. But that’s -- that's an explanation that, you know, maybe didn't just -- it didn't come into my head right away, it probably didn't come to a lot of other people. So, if we do -- in six months when we do this, maybe we can provide more information than what is just statutorily required. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. Through you, Vice Mayor. I just had an add-on question to this point about that individual who was picked up after being released after making bail. I did call to inquire that this person was in our custody. POLICE COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE ELOW: Yes. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. So, we knew that there was an inquiry. POLICE COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE ELOW: Yes. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Madam Commissioner? POLICE COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE ELOW: Yes. Through you, Vice Mayor. ICE did call our Shift Commander and asked if this person was in custody, and we said that we are not allowed to provide that information. They -- and they came out in front of our Station, waited for the person to get bailed, which they did, and they picked him up then. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Okay. There's a lot going on in my head right now. And just in terms of like, if there is an inquiry, we have somebody in our -- POLICE COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE ELOW: Yeah. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: -- in our custody, like, is -- like how can we give heads -- like, how -- like -- I don't know. What responsibilities could we have in regards to there was an inquiry, like that we know possibly they're outside ready to pick you up? I mean, could -- I don't know, don't -- don’t make bail right now? Like, I don't know. Like, is there anything that we could perhaps say in -- and I don't know if this is even the right forum to be having that deep -- and I don't think it is, right, because I think that's going to put us in a different --. So, happy to sidebar it, but just, I want us to be thinking about that, right? Like if it's possible for us to be mindful in that respect, please, let's think about what that looks like. Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mr. Manager. CITY MANAGER YI-AN HUANG: Through you, Vice Mayor. I think -- I mean, I think this is -- I think what you're expressing, Councillor Wilson, is what a lot

27 of us feel. And how do we respond when we deeply disagree with the policy of the Administration? And yet, I think these are ultimately lawful actions. I wonder if City Solicitor Bayer could maybe shed a little bit of light, but I think we do want to be careful because there are really significant consequences to obstructing or helping someone essentially evade --. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Absolutely. And through you, Vice Mayor. I would not want to put us in that. So, Solicitor Bayer, I'm okay with not going in -- not going there. I yield. Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. Thank you. All right. If there's nothing further, the question comes on placing both City Manager Agenda Item Number 1 and Communication from Other City Officers Number 2 on file. On a motion by Councillor Wilson, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. And you have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: We now move on to City Manager Agenda Item Number 2, a communication transmitted from Yi-An Huang, City Manager, relative to the appointment of Marnie Gale and C. Dale Gatson, and the reappointment of Louis Bacci III, all for five year terms to the Cambridge Housing Authority Board. This was pulled by Councillor Wilson. You have the floor. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you, Vice Mayor. And thank you. I just -- I really pulled this because I had concerns based on the Public Comment that was shared. And through you to the City Manager, if you have anything in terms of a response to what was said in Public Comment. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mr. Manager? CITY MANAGER YI-AN HUANG: Sure. Through you, Vice Mayor. Apologies that I think we didn't get the full process into the memo, but Ms. Gadson's

28 appointment to the tenant seat was supported by the Alliance for Cambridge Tenants. The Alliance for Cambridge Tenants worked closely with the Housing Authority to publicize and ended up bringing forward seven candidates. Those seven candidates were interviewed. We had two finalists, one of which was Ms. Dale Gadson, who was selected and that we're putting forward. So, I believe we've actually followed the appropriate process in terms of filling the tenant seat on the Board. This hasn't actually happened for a little while since we haven't had a tenant organization but really appreciate ACT for collaborating. I know Bill Cunningham was here a little bit earlier, but I appreciate them bringing forward these candidates, and I was excited to bring forward Ms. Gadson as an appointment. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mr. -- no? Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Okay. I mean, yeah, I appreciate it. I just -- there was definitely a need to pull it with the concern that was raised in Public Comment. And so, just I think I'll yield for now, just to see if any of my other colleagues have any other thoughts here. But just, you know, I think it sounded like there was maybe some discrepancy with the process, but I want to appreciate, obviously, the support of the Tenant Council and, you know, sharing individuals, but it just sounds like maybe there was a little bit of a discrepancy there. So, I just wanted to name that and try to discuss it if we could. Thank you. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Thank you. I just note that the action on here is vote to approve and place the CMA on file. And the memo itself says that these recommendations should be forwarded to the Housing Committee for a public hearing as outlined in City Council Rule 32C, and in accordance with MGL Chapter 121B. So, is that what we're doing? (VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN CONFERS WITH INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE) VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: It could go Committee, and then back. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Right. I just wanted -- because I want to understand what we're voting on, and I know the memo said that it would go to the Housing Committee. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mr. Manager? CITY MANAGER YI-AN HUANG: Through you, Vice Mayor. I believe that the process, as stipulated by the Ordinance, is that we forward the recommendations to the Housing Committee and then it comes back. I do know that there was a request from Elaine DeRosa, the Chair of the Housing Authority, who couldn't be here today, and also Mike Johnson, the Executive Director too. I believe we did this with the Cambridge Redevelopment Authority, but to suspend the rules to accept the appointments, just because they are seeking to meet quorum requirements. As you can see, we've got two vacancies that we're filling at this point. And then certainly, if there's a Housing Committee that would like to discuss this, that could also be scheduled. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Okay. This -- the last sentence says, in accordance with MGL. So, will we still be in compliance with MGL? I'm seeing the City solicitor say -- VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: -- nod, yes. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Madam Solicitor, you should probably just sit up here for the rest of the night. Just saying. Unless you're trying to get your steps in going back and forth. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: And I will say --.

29 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: We’re going to put a name tag on the seat. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: I do appreciate the will to have a more diverse, particularly socioeconomically diverse, group here, and that these are before us, and that there is a quorum. So, I -- if it would be the recommendation and the will of this Body, I could support a motion to do this quickly, and then still have the Housing Committee review it. But I just -- I -- again, I did want to make sure since it mentions both MGL and City Council Rule Number, we need to make sure we do this in an appropriate fashion. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Madam Solicitor, any comments? CITY SOLICITOR MEGAN BAYER: Through you, Mr. Vice Mayor. I believe it is just our rules that require it to be referred to Committee. So, if we suspend our rules, we can go ahead and do that. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Motion. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: On a motion by Councillor Wilson to suspend rule number -- COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: 32C. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: -- 32C, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: So, what would you -- what would you like to do, Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: I'm -- now that the rules are suspended, I'm happy to suggest that this recommendation be put in place pending -- without the need for any -- and -- and also forwarded the Housing Committee for an eventual meeting. What's the legal language that we would be doing? If these recommendations be approved. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Approved and placed on file. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Well, --. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: And then we can refer it as well.

30 VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Then we can refer it, right. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yeah. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Because the original -- yeah, it was -- the original action was to approve and place on file. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Right. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: So, on approving and place this matter on file and referring to the Housing Committee for a future hearing, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Great. We now move on to City Manager Agenda Item Number 4, transmitting communication from Yi-An Huang, City Manager, relative to the appropriation of $71,600 to the Grant Fund Water Department Other Ordinary Maintenance account, $70,960 of that, and to the Grant Fund Water Department Travel and Training account, $640. Funds will be used to convene a Technical Advisory Group, TAG, which will consist of representatives from watershed communities, Lexington, Lincoln, Weston, and Waltham; the Massachusetts Department of Transportation, MassDOT; larger commercial property owners; Cambridge Water Department staff; and other interested parties. This was pulled by Councillor Zusy, you have the floor. COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Thank you, Chair McGovern. Again, I'm so glad we got this grant and I'm glad you're working on this to -- with our neighbors in Lexington, Lincoln, Weston, and Waltham, because it is concerning how much salt is in our water and how it corrodes our pipes, and we certainly don't want to be replacing more pipes than we have to, right? And I was just sort of shocked at the -- at how much salt was in the water in comparison to the MWRA water supply. I wanted to ask whether MassDOT is part of the study group. I was looking at the map, and I was -- I hadn't realized that the Hobbs Brooks Reservoir is so close to 95 and Costco in Route 2. So, it's really close to a lot of big roads. So, is MassDOT part of it? And then I just wanted to hear more about brine. Is brine working as part of the goal to

31 encourage all these communities to use brine instead of salt to -- when there are icy roads. Through you, Chair McGovern. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes, through you, Vice Mayor. So, to answer your question, yes, we have letters of support, you know, from all of the surrounding towns on the watershed. Also, MassDOT, whom we've been working with for, you know, at least two decades on salt reduction. And because of, you know, in the ‘20s and ‘30s, they built a highway, right -- it literally cuts our Stony Brook reservoir right in half. So, you know -- and initially the DOT's response when we asked for salt reduction was, well, you know, when icy roads happen, you know, we have an acute problem where people crash, and, you know, can be injured or even caused deaths. So, they're -- you know, they were reluctant at first, but we've worked with them. They have new technologies have come out, as you had just mentioned, the brine. Our Superintendent of Streets here for the City of Cambridge, we've implemented -- he and his staff have implemented a brine program, as most cities and towns have started to do. But yes, that's one of the areas we're going to look at with this Technical Advisory Group at, you know, encouraging using brine and things like that. You know, so the DOT is doing the best they can. We've also -- you know, on their highway construction, have started to build drainage basins that collect the salt, you know, and collect, you know, contaminants off the roadway and prevent them from getting into our reservoirs, which helps. But as you -- you know, as you stated about Costco, you know, like Cambridge, that area along 128 and 95, and our watershed has seen tremendous growth over the past, you know, decade or so. And, you know, a lot of those, because it was open space, were large commercial properties with, you know, large impervious surfaces that have been put in. And typically, they, you know, in the wintertime, because they don't -- you know, they want to make it safe for people to walk and drive into their property, they, of course, you know, load it up with salt. So, part of the goal of this grant is to develop that Technical Advisory Group. You know, we have MassDOT, Charles River Watershed Association, Boston Properties, DCR, and some other uh businesses out that way, that have given us a letter of support and have at least initially agreed to be part of the -- you know, the process. So, that's part of what this grant is for, is for us to do that, and then develop a mitigation plan. So, study where the concentrations of salts are coming from, if we can, and then to, you know, help, you know, develop mitigation strategies and plans that we can then present in a report to the MassDEP with the hopes of eventually -- you know, this is for the study, the 604B grants are for the study, and hopefully, you know, we can find places that we can take some action, or at least do some, you know, work. And eventually we hope to apply for their Section 319 Grant, which would actually give us funding to do -- take some action on salt mitigation. COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Through you, Chair McGovern. Sounds great and very important. So, thank you for being on this. Thank you. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Thank you. I wouldn't have talked about this, except someone else pulled it, but I'm very excited about it, as we all know. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: That doesn’t mean you have to talk about it, Councillor. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: What? No, because there is an important part of this, which is this Body has often talked about the fact that MWRA water, the chlorides in our system are the -- it's not that it's not safe and meet the standards, but it is something we hear about consistently, particularly from cafes and other folks with equipment that it is because of the high chloride content that

32 there is often less useful life for many appliances, and for coffee baristas, it's been a real problem, and folks have come here to talk about it. So, this sounds like it's going to be one of the steps in addressing that, which is really important for us to move forward on. Is this something that we have any sense that other cities across the snow belt have actually managed to address, and to decrease significantly the number of chlorides? Because as they come into our water supply, it's something that is going to be very challenging for us to address if we don't have other solutions. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Through you, Vice Mayor. Yes. You know, the -- as I was stating earlier, most cities and towns locally have started to adapt the brine solution, the pretreatment of the roads, which cuts down on the buildup of the snow and ice on the road, which allows for then reducing the amount of de-icing salts that are needed to be put down during the storms themselves. So, it -- it is definitely becoming more popular and, you know, most cities and towns are adopting that. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Right. Because if we do that, then you won't get cranky me every once in a while, or other people, saying, hey, let's just switch to NWRA water all the time, which is certainly something we have talked about as we move forward. Is this -- also, is there any correlation with the fact that we are seeing an increasing number of droughts? The concentration of the water means that the chloride will likely continue to go up. So, is that factored into our discussions for the Technical Advisory Group? If that makes sense, because we know -- I'm not sure where Hobbs Brook is today, but, you know, we've seen an increasing number of droughts, even as we see increasing extreme weather events. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes, through you, Vice Mayor. Yes, absolutely. And, in fact, that's in the description. One of the things we will absolutely be talking about is how future weather, and, you know, the more frequent drought situations that we are seeing affect the salt content of the water. And yes, it definitely has an effect. You know, a lot of the salt is actually coming through groundwater when we have groundwater intrusion as well. So, it's coming from the surrounding areas, which obviously becomes more concentrated when we're in a drought, you know. To use an old term that's not as popular anymore, the solution to pollution is dilution, right? So, yes, when we have more water in our reservoirs, that salt concentration goes down. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: So, -- COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Thank you. And now, I yield. I just didn’t see (INDISCERNIBLE 2:49:05) VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: I -- we’re getting off track. This is about appropriating the money. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Correct. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: So, if we can get back on track on that. Anything further? No questions about appropriating the money? So, on a motion by Councillor Zusy to -- roll -- on the appropriation and placing the matter on file, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui?

33 COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: All right. We now move on to City Manager Agenda Item Number 6, transmitting communication from Yi-An Huang, City Manager, relative to the appropriation of $993,123 to the Grant Fund Office of Sustainability Extraordinary Expenditures account to support the creation of a resilience hub at the Cambridge Community Center. The funding provided through this grant will allow for the procurement and installation of the necessary infrastructure and equipment. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Thank you, through you, Chair McGovern. I'm just absolutely thrilled about this. I think the Cambridge Community Center had each of us meet with them and focus us --. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Could speak right into the mic, please? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yeah. I think the Community Center had each of us meet with them and speak to us about the importance of this project. And it does seem as though it's great that the City worked with the Community Center to maybe acquire this grant. So, I understand -- so, they got a million dollars from -- through sort of Ayanna Pressley, I think, and $150,000 from the Cambridge Redevelopment Authority. With this money, will they have the money to completely implement their plans and create their resiliency hub? And that's through you, Chair McGovern, to the City Manager or Deputy City Manager. I'm just wondering, will they be able to complete the job. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Deputy City Manager? DEPUTY CITY MANAGER KATHY WATKINS: Through you, Vice Mayor. I think Julie is online, Julie Wormser? CHIEF CLIMATE OFFICER JULIE WORMSER: I am. Thank you so much. Through you, Vice Mayor. The short answer is this is the funding that the Community Center needs to put in solar and battery storage. There is more that the Center will need to do in terms of HVAC, electric kitchen, more weatherization. But we are continuing to work with them on fundraising and support from like the Cambridge Redevelopment Authority. So, it is a team effort. It's modular. So, they now have the funds to complete this part of the project. But the overall project's more like four and a half million for a total overhaul of the building, which will make it resilient and energy efficient and net zero. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Thank you so much for that update. I just think since we are relying on the Community Center to be our resilience hub -- anyway, I'm

34 just really happy to hear how closely you're working with them to achieve this goal because it will be significant for the overall city. Thank you so much. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Pleasure of the Council? Seeing none. Oh, Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Sorry, thank you. I just -- I want to appreciate that this was able to be worked out, and through you, Mr. Vice Mayor, you know, this is something that we have been talking about for quite some time. So, I appreciate Mr. War- -- Mrs. -- sorry, Worns-- - Wormser, sorry. I love you. I'm sorry about that -- for just sharing, you know, again, the additional concerns that are needed to be done in order to fulfill the goals here for the Community Center to be up and running, and also the partnership in terms of helping and supporting, you know, identifying additional grants, funding, and things in order for that to happen. So, I just appreciate just the naming, and also just seeing this be here tonight because it was definitely a surprise when I read the Agenda last week. So, that's all I have to say. Thank you. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Anything further? No? So, the question comes on uh the appropriation and placing the matter on file. On a motion by Councillor Zusy, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: We now move on to City Manager Agenda Item Number 7, a communication transmitted from Yi-An Huang, City Manager, relative to Awaiting Report Item 25-20 regarding Incentive Zoning Nexus Study. This was pulled by Councillor Toner. Councillor Toner, you have the floor. COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, just a couple of basic questions. When I read over this report -- first, I've always had difficulty completely understanding the nexus between building big labs and big office buildings, and then what that means for affordable

35 housing because generally, at least my assumption is, a lot of the people that came and worked in those buildings are the types that are making $100,000, $120,000, %150,000. So, they might not actually qualify for affordable housing. And so, what exactly is the nexus between building high-end office and lab space or commercial space, and the need for more affordable housing? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Who wants it, Mr. Carter? HOUSING DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER COTTER: Through you, Vice Mayor McGovern. So, the study, if -- you know, we assume that the study will follow the same methodology that we've used the last two studies. And the 2019 study looked at projected new development in the city over the course of five to 10 years and looked at the types of jobs that we would expect to find in that development. And you're right, a lot of the development that was projected included labs and offices with jobs that were expected to be higher income jobs. But there are also a good number of jobs that are what we call lower or middle skill jobs, for which job training could be helpful for helping folks access the jobs, and for income ranges where workers would qualify for affordable housing. So, the report looked at that, and projected out the number of jobs expected to be in that development modeling, and after the development that we had seen, looked at the number of employees, the types of jobs, the income there, and then determined the number of housing units of different types at different income levels that would be needed to house folks that would be in need of affordable housing in those new buildings, and then quantify that up to work it back to a rate that would be the contribution rate that would be necessary to fund the local portion of the cost of building that affordable housing. COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Thank you. Just to follow up on that, so, you use who's going to be working in the building to figure out the -- you know, the possible need or number of affordable housing units, but it doesn't mean people working in those buildings would necessarily get those affordable housing units. It'd be open to everybody on the market for an affordable housing unit. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Director Cotter? HOUSING DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER COTTER: That's correct, through you, Vice Mayor McGovern. So, the incentive provisions allow for monetary contributions to be made to the Affordable Housing Trust to be used to promote or fund affordable housing in the city. And those funds could be used for any variety of things so long as they're consistent with the purpose of the Nexus Study and promoting the need of affordable housing. So, certainly 52 New Street could be an example where Just A Start just received more than 2,000 applications for housing. A portion of the funding there came from the Affordable Housing Trust. So, certainly in that group of applicants could be applicants that are working in some of the new buildings that have made incentive contributions over the last several years. COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Thanks. The other question I had was in here it talks about doing employee surveys, and I wasn't sure when you talk about the employee surveys, are those the employees that work in the companies that have built the new buildings, or is this just an employee -- like an employee survey of all the employees of Cambridge, no matter where they work? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mr. Cotter? HOUSING DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER COTTER: Through you, Vice Mayor McGovern. Good question. And the survey would be of existing employees to understand how employees that are accepting jobs in Cambridge are thinking about housing, how many folks accept a job in Cambridge then desire to move to Cambridge, to get a sense as to what the proportion of workers that are working in Cambridge would be looking for housing and potentially could be in need of affordable housing to understand what that proportion would be.

36 And the last -- the 2019 study did not include that survey. The survey was last done in 2015, and we noted it because it's an important component to do now, given changes that we've seen in employment and patterns over the last several years. COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Thank you. And I'm sorry, just to clarify, because I wasn't sure if I understood. So, are they employees in the Biomeds and Biogens and the -- that sector of the world, or is it also employees that are working in our local hotels and restaurants and other businesses? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mr. Cotter? HOUSING DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER COTTER: It's a good question. I don't know that I can get into that level of detail, but I think that the survey would be looking at folks across a variety of sectors in buildings that would approximate the type of development that we would project to see in the next several years. COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Thank you. And one last question, Mr. Chair, through you. Is just this -- I don't know, the way it's written, it kind of just assumes we will have linkage fee, or linkage fee may stay the same or go up. And I'm just curious, does our current economic situation, and the vacancy rates and everything, does that factor into this future study in terms of should we, you know, not get rid of linkage fee, but maybe to encourage people to build something, we go down -- back down to $20 or something. Will that be part of the discussion? HOUSING DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER COTTER: Through you, Vice Mayor McGovern. Yes. So, the study will look at the anticipated development over several years, and we'll certainly take into consideration what we're seeing now in the market and project that out. And obviously, if things are different, it would change some of those assumptions. But I know that the discussion earlier about the commercial development and new growth and -- in the study, and I'd expect that we would look at this again. One of the considerations for the recommendations that come from the consultant team would be looking at competitiveness and looking at the regional context for these types of exactions. So, we would expect that the consultant would model development based upon the current climate or the climate in place in ’26, when we expect the study to be underway. And then that would come back with information that could be different than what we see. COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Thank you. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Thank you, Chair McGovern. I'm just thrilled that you'll be -- that you’ll be hiring this out, that this study will be in process soon, and out in the fall of '26. So, I wondered, as part of the study, will there be some analysis done of existing job programs, and what sort of money we might need for our job programs? And my other question is, will it also analyze current housing demand for low, middle, and high income units? Through you, Chair McGovern. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mr. Cotter? HOUSING DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER COTTER: Thank you. Through you, Vice Mayor McGovern. To your questions, Councillor Zusy, the report itself won't necessarily look at the full universe of job training programs, but certainly City staff would be able to provide that, and it could be referenced in the discussion because it is relevant. The report would be looking to the establish the basis for creating a jobs training linkage requirement, and what the funds would be, kind of in the same way that the housing contribution would be derived. So, looking at more of the need for job training based upon employment targets in those new buildings with jobs that are in that low to middle skill range.

37 COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Mm-hmm. HOUSING DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER COTTER: And then looking at the demand, I think you're asking about the existing demand of housing -- COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Mm-hmm. HOUSING DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER COTTER: -- compared to the demand from new development. So, the study will be looking at the demand for affordable housing generated from new development, because that's where we're looking to make the link to establish the nexus to be able to have that contribution required of new development. Looking at demand for housing more broadly gets a little bit more difficult to establish the clear basis and link between new development and the broader implications in the housing market. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yeah, understood. And then one other question is, so you -- on page 3, it's also 32, you talk -- you provide a conceptual example of how the linkage fees might vary depending upon the size of projects. And I just wondered, do you think that could incentivize smaller projects? Are you worried about that at all? Through you, Chair McGovern. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mr. Cotter? HOUSING DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER COTTER: Through you, Vice Mayor McGovern. So, I think it's hard to say at this point what the potential impact of a number of the potential changes that we would ask a consultant to model might be. I think what we wanted to do is just note some of the things that we recall from the discussion the last time the Council considered the incentive provisions and note affirmatively that we would expect the study to look at some of those, and to give some examples of those just so that you're aware of the approach that we plan to take the study. The example you noted on page 4 is really just a kind of a simple example to show how a marginal fee might look. This is not intended to be suggestive of what we expect the outcome to be, or how that approach would be, but more just to say if there were such a marginal fee that would change based upon the size of the project, this is one way that it could look, just to be clear about what we mean when we're describing a marginal fee approach. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Zuzy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Thank you so much, again. Just a final comment. Anyway, I think it's great this study is going to happen. I am worried about our high linkage fee. I think, like Councillor Toner said -- may have suggested some concern, you know, it is $36.36 per square foot now; when in Somerville, it's $22.46; in Boston, it's $30.78 for lab and $23.09 for other; and in Watertown, it's $11.50. So, we really don't want to price ourselves out of development. We want the development to continue to happen here. And I am all for more money for job training programs, but I am really eager for us to better understand -- I know we had the program where we heard about job training programs, but I just -- I still would like to -- I would like for there to be a better evaluation of existing programs and how we can -- what's working, what isn't working, and how we can work more effectively before we like add more money to our current linkage fee. Thank you. Thank you so much. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. I have Councillor Azeem, and then Councillor Nolan. COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Thank you. I guess from the last time we had this conversation, you can guess what my comments will be, but I just wanted to say I think that, besides what the exact number is, what's most important to me is that we have like a continuous function or a marginal rate, right? I think that this is the same way that

38 income taxes work, where if someone is building 100,000 -- you know, nine hundred -- 99,999 square feet at $20 a square foot they're going to pay $2 million-ish. And if they add like five extra square feet, they're going to pay two and a half million. So, no -- there's going to be a dead zone in every situation where you have that jump, unless that jump is just for the additional square feet. And so, just to say that more than what the specific number is, it would really be nice to not incentivize dead zones in development. And like I think that that's something that's fairly simple to do if that's with the design of the study, and I think that that's really important. Besides that, I don't have many other comments, except to say that like I struggle a little bit with nexus studies sometimes because they're based on like what we would like to get out, but not on what we miss out. I think the nexus like linkage fees are fairly low that they don't actually inhibit commercial development, in my opinion. So, I'm not really worried about it, but it does make me -- it does leave us in a tough place, where we always do is like what do we want out of development, but not like what do we miss if it doesn't happen in terms of taxes or other sorts of stuff. So, I just wanted to say that. But I think that, you know, linkage for all, you know, is fairly low cost in terms of all the development, especially for commercials. It's not the biggest deal in the world but did want to mention that. Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Thank you. I appreciate the timeline. I'm really just following, and I appreciate what -- the work that we throw on you to come up with all these memos, which are extensive and comprehensive. The -- following up on the marginal rate structure, can you explain how it would be even possible to do that, if a Nexus Study is meant to be straight up the impact on a city of the need for affordable housing, if my building of 100,000 square feet versus 300,000 square feet, why would there be any difference in terms of the need for affordable housing if it's straight up based on the number of low to moderate income workers who need housing? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mr. Cotter? HOUSING DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER COTTER: Thank you, through you, Vice Mayor McGovern. So, the Nexus Study, I think the way to think of it is establishing the determined rate that would be needed for that, looking at a range of developments. And so, we'll do that to determine that. And then some of the discussion that we would expect with the study would likely be around some of the policy trade-offs that would come within setting policy, setting rates within that that upper limit. So, you think of the existing provisions which allow for exemptions for projects that are under 60,000 square feet. It's not to say that they don't have an impact, but there was -- Council made a choice to exempt a certain amount of floor area for those developments. And so, within the upper limit that is established by the Nexus Study, there are some policy tradeoffs or considerations that the Council could discuss. And I think what we want to do in the study is just build them in so that they're clear, so that we're giving some ability for the Council to have that discussion at that point in time to understand if there are policy tradeoffs that the Council would like to consider to -- as with noted with the marginal rate, to not have a dead zone where there's a difference in payment, or to not have certain types of development that are more difficult to expect to see, given what the approach is. You know, the other ones that we included in here, again, just to look at, not to say that this is what we expect the recommendation to be, but we want the study to think about, again, looking at variation of rates by location. We did that in the 2019 study. We talked about that. The Council did not want to make that choice, but we think it's important it came up in the discussion. And then also to look at variations in rate potentially by use. That would be probably more difficult, and that might be more of a policy choice that the Council would have to make, because if we

39 look at the impact on the need for affordable housing, and the funding that would be needed to create that affordable housing, some of the uses are lower value uses, retail or restaurant, compared to say office or lab. So, if we establish the rate, the idea would be then we could look at ways in which that the Council could then have the discussion in setting the rate, or studying the policy based upon that information from the study. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Thanks. I think I still have to understand it more because I would think use -- if I'm having a restaurant, I'm going to have a way higher percentage of folks who are in the low to moderate income than if I have a lab. So, it seems to me that's what the rates should be based on. And I understand that what you're saying is we would set -- the study would come back with here's the most you can charge, and then we can vary it within that based on size. That seems to me to go against some of what I've heard from our Solicitor about the requirement to treat all properties exactly the same. So, that's why I'm just struggling. But I don't -- I don't know if we have an answer tonight, but those are the kinds of things presumably we'll discuss. But I think it's really important for -- at least, I didn't understand all that. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mr. Cotter? HOUSING DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER COTTER: So, just to clarify, and to be clear, what we do with the study, we'll be doing it in coordination with the City Solicitor's Office to sure that everything we're doing is consistent with the Attorney's advice. And if the Solicitor has anything to add or clarify or correct my misstatement, I'm happy to be corrected. But I think that that is the approach that we're hoping to do with this to create more of a situation where we can talk about some of these things that have been built into the study. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. I have a couple of questions if nobody else -- other Councillors? No? So, just, you know, I just want to point out that, you know, we just had a Budget Hearing, and we talked a lot about how Kendall Square is struggling, and how that impacts what we can do and what we can't do, and residential tax rates and everything else. And so, you know, we do have to be mindful when we add more -- more fees to construction, the impact that has. And I don't know if this would be -- I don't know if this would be relevant to this particular report, but, I mean, I have mentioned this before, and I think maybe it was a year or so ago that we did get a report from CDD about all the different things that we require for development and the costs of those, right? So, we tend to look at these things in isolation, and we say, okay, we want to raise the linkage fee and -- because we want as much money as possible going to the Affordable Housing Trust, and I'm on board with all of that. But then you look at, okay, how does that fit with these 12 other things, all good things themselves, adding more and more and more cost. And I think, you know, I -- clearly these developers have these -- you know, these folks who build these buildings and own these buildings, have a whole lot more money than all of us in this room combined times, you know, a hundred. But their margins on some of these projects aren't actually, you know, as large as people think. People think they're making, you know, an 80 percent profit margin. That's not how it actually works out. So, everything that we do, and every additional expense that we put on, just sort of chips away at that and whether or not they're going to move forward, or they're going to go to Watertown at 11 bucks, right? And Watertown is seeing quite a bit of lab development there. So, you know, it is just -- it is always something we have to balance and keep in mind, especially during these financial times. And then I would just say on the types of workers, you know, I think when we think of someone who works in a lab, we're thinking of someone, you know, who's making $200,000 a year, or someone who works at Google or whatever. There's a lot of other jobs in those buildings and in those companies that aren't making that money. So, you know, a lab technician, you know, they might earn $60,000 to

40 $70,000 a year. That is someone who's going to qualify for inclusionary. A security guard, somebody working on the custodial staff or something. So, you know, I think sometimes when we talk about -- when we try to make the connection between housing and Kendall Square and these jobs, people think, oh, look at all these people working in these buildings, they’re all making a ton of money, and they're ruining the city and they're doing this. There’s a lot of people who work in those jobs that aren't making that money, right? And those, you know, we want to make sure that those people can stay here, you know, as well. So, -- and I think that's where -- that's where that link comes together. So, all right. If there's nothing further, on a motion by Councillor Toner to place the matter on file, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. And you have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: We now move on to City Manager Agenda Item Number 8, a communication transmitted from Yi-An Huang, City Manager, relative to the Zero Emissions Transportation Plan Report. And I'll just also note while we get into this discussion, we will have to do six roll calls. So, keep that in mind. Councillor Nolan, you have the floor. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Thank you. I'd like to, before we discuss this, suspend the rules to bring forth tabled -- or I guess, take off the table. There's a memo I had put on related -- directly related to this report, and then we held off discussing it in order to allow this report to come before us. It is on the Table Item Number 6 under the Calendar. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. So, the first thing we need to do is move suspension of the rules, and then we have to take a vote on taking it off the table. So, on suspension. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern?

41 VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: On taking matter -- Unfinished Business Number 6, a communication was received from Councillor Nolan transmitting a report on the Cambridge Zero Emission Transportation Plan. This was placed on the table September 15th, 2025. On taking that matter off of the table and bringing it forward, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Both matters are now before us for discussion. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Thank you. Vice Mayor, Chair McGovern.

42 I'm happy to talk about my memo and how it interfaces with this or -- VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: They’re both before us. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: -- I'm not sure if the City staff wants to give us an introduction to it. It's really up to it -- oh. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: I’m seeing -- I’m seeing head shaking. So, take it away, Councillor Nolan. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Just wanted to make sure, because this is a really exciting plan. I really want to thank, I think, many people in addition to the ones at the table here before us, both (INDISCERNIBLE 3:17:32) -- and -- Traffic Planner, right? Is that your title now, Stephanie? Assistant Commissioner for something? TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER STEPHANIE GROLL: Through you, Chair. Assistant Commissioner for Transportation Planning. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. Okay. The plan before us, the Cambridge Zero Emissions Transportation Plan is a first ever for the City. And it represents a tremendous amount of work over, I think, the course of a year and a half or so of a Task Force that was set up specifically. It started out as the Net Zero Transportation Plan, with the idea that we had a Net Zero Action Plan and that was really focused on buildings, and we needed one for transportation. Even though it only represents eight percent of our citywide emission pollution, it's a really critical part of so many of our goals for health and safety. The reason I'm excited to have this move forward is that we've, again, talked about it for a number of years. In the memo that I had wrote, which I did in conjunction with the staff, and know about this, the Zero Emission Transportation Plan is the culmination of work of a Task Force of a broad range of people. What we did at -- when we had the Hearing on this Plan, the Draft Plan, on the Health and Environment Committee earlier this year, in February, we reviewed an early draft of the plan. And as part of the meeting, what we did was talk about ways that we might think that it should be updated, since this will basically become the policy document for the City. We want one place where everything is there for people to look at, instead of looking at three different or many different items. This -- what we did since that February 24th meeting, was the staff worked to incorporate SMART goals in a number of areas because we know that if you have specific, measurable, actionable, relevant, and time-based goals, it's going to mean that we're going to know when we get there and also give us a sense of how we're doing. So, I really appreciate the staff work on a number of SMART goals, which we can go over if we want, but I think they're pretty important. They track travel mode, improvements to access to public transportation, Bluebikes, metrics for car travel, EV adoption, and the targets will really allow for better oversight. What I wanted to point out, and what I hope that the Council will approve, which is in the memo that we all have had on the Agenda since September 15th, is that in addition to the goals and initiatives already in the document, the City Council itself has discussed some of this over the past year since the Task Force finished its work. So, in order to have a complete and comprehensive plan, it makes sense, I think, to include a couple of the Council goals, which include the Citywide Shuttle and Transit Gap Study, and to include all of our work that we've been doing as a Council on expanding fare fee programs, or really have that be part of the Plan and the hope for in this -- in this document. And then there's a second one on improving safety and access for micromobility modes has also been an important transportation initiative of this Council. We’ve -- the staff has worked with the State Commission on this. The idea would be -- and I would love to know, I don't know if it's the Solicitor or the staff, I would love to pass the Plan tonight, except to say it's with the proviso of incorporating those elements that the Council has in a future document. I'm not sure if it has to come back to the Council, as I would trust the staff to incorporate those. And if there's any other initiatives that this Council wants to

43 include, now's the time. But I think those are two of the ones that are really important for this Council for us to make sure that are in the final policy document. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. And before we go to the City, maybe I'm getting a little cross-eyed the way my notes are written out. We don't have six votes on this issue -- on this particular one. It's one vote. But the way my -- the way my Agenda read, it -- I read it wrong. So, I just put the fear into -- our Clerk's scrambling. What six votes are you talking about? Sorry. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: It's okay. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: We have to vote on every word. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. My apology. Anyone from the City? Response, comment, Councillor Nolan's points? TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER STEPHANIE GROLL: Through you, Vice Mayor. We are happy to incorporate the points that you made in the communication, and they make a very good addition to the Plan. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: All right. Any -- Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yeah. Thank you, through Chair -- through you, Chair McGovern. I just wanted to echo what Councillor Nolan said. I think it's an extraordinary plan and very, very comprehensive. So, I thank you for all of your work. I had a few comments. One is, I felt like your discussion of community engagement was really great. It's -- you've engaged a very diverse group. But I -- it seems like to me as though it would make sense to engage neighbors that are impacted by congestion as well. Like I'm thinking about on Putnam Avenue, Granite Street, North Mass Ave. It seems like they should be part of planning for the transportation plan as well, because we hear from them all the time, and I'm sure you do too. So, it seems like engaging residents from around the community that are impacted by congestion and curb congestion would be a good idea. I was -- oh, I -- anyway, I thought you had so many good ideas. I'm hoping that the City's Safe Routes to School Program is in all of our schools. I don't know if it is or not. But I thought you had great ideas for reducing car ownership. And I wish we could encourage universities to discourage students from bringing cars. I know we can't tell them not to bring cars, but it seems like we could encourage them and say that this is a pretty much car-free city, or we're trying to become a car-free city. I wish we could reduce parking permits to one per person or two per household. And I wish we could encourage more car shares and rentals in neighborhoods for weekend getaways, because that would really reduce the need for cars. And I -- as I've been meeting with neighbors, I was meeting with neighbors at LBJ Apartments, they were really concerned with a lot of people are buying micromobility devices, which is great. But other neighbors are really freaked out by having the devices with lithium batteries in their buildings because they feel like they're a fire issue. So, maybe there would be some way that we can extend the Plan also, or augment the plan, to consider creating or incentivizing apartment buildings to create safe storage facilities outside for those micromobility devices. Anyway, I think it's great all that you're doing to make Cambridge greater for cycling. And I was just looking at, again, numbers in Montreal --a place I hoped to get this summer, but I never got there -- but in Montreal, apparently 50 percent of the population cycles at some point, and over 13 percent are regularly using the bike to trans- -- you know, for transport needs. And it's a lot colder in Montreal than it is here. So, I realize that that's where you're hoping that we're going to go, that over time as we make cycling even safer, and easier to do, that more and more people will be cycling.

44 Someone had mentioned to me that we need to make our buses cleaner and to feel more safe, because they were saying when they'd ridden the bus recently there were people on the bus that were a little crazy and they felt very unsafe on the bus. So, anyway, maybe that would help us with encouraging people to use the bus. And then finally, I just wanted to say that I'm really looking forward to your Cambridge Access and Mobility Plan, that coming soon. Anyway, I just want you to remember, cars, one of the things I learned from your report, on page 46, was that there are actually -- I thought there were 42,000 registered or permitted vehicles in the city. But actually, it sounds like since '21, '23, we have over 44,000, almost 400 permitted vehicles. So, we really need to figure out how to accommodate them, at least until -- I was at the mobility lecture at MIT on Friday, and they're saying autonomous vehicles, shared autonomous vehicles are the future. And when they -- when they come to inhabit Cambridge, there'll be much less congestion on our roads and on our curbs. So, I don't know if that's the real future or not, but I hope so, if it'll help ease congestion in both places. Anyway, I thank you so much for your work, and I think you’re -- I think this is a great plan for the future. I thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yeah. Just to remind us all, we did the same thing with the Net Zero Action Plan, that the Council did adjust it a little bit. And then you might want to make a note in the intro that, you know, the Council then added the SMART goals and added a few things, because that's fine. I think the motion then would be to -- oh, does someone else want to talk to --? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: I think the motion is just to place on file. They heard the --. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Are we moving --. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Well, to place on file, and have -- and direct the staff to incorporate the changes per the memo. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Mr. Vice Chair? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Are we moving to a vote? I would like to say a few things. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yeah. So, --. (VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN CONFERS WITH INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE) VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: So, the Clerk is suggesting we just place the matter on file. They will add it, because otherwise we'll have to amend and do all that. So, on placing the matter on file on a motion by Councillor Nolan, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Two -- two items. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Two items. Right. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: And Councillor Wilson doesn’t want to speak? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: No, she was going to just call the question, so. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Do you want to speak? UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: She wants to talk. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: I want to talk. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Oh, you want to talk?

45 COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yeah. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Oh, I’m sorry. I thought you were -- I thought you were wanting to call the question. My fault. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. Thank you. And apologies for any confusion. I know it's getting a little late but thank you. I want to also appreciate the very in-depth Plan here, and really just be mindful of like the changes from the last time we looked at this work, obviously prior to my tenure, and just really thinking about kind of how we are moving as a city and just what does mobility actually look like for our neighbors, for our City staff, for our visitors and everything in between. And so, I think there is a lot that's being captured here. But one thing that I'm not actually seeing is if there is any financial needs in terms of what the next several years, or even decades, may look like. What financial implications might we be anticipating as we move towards this Cambridge Zero Emissions Transportation Plan? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Who wants it? Don't all jump at once. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: I guess I asked because I can't imagine -- VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Mr. Manager? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: -- I can't imagine that we would be going into this with no thoughts around just financial implications, right? Like this -- there will be costs to implementing these things across the board. And so, what are the costs that we're projecting and seeing over these next several years and decades? UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: So, through you, --. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: And if you don't -- maybe if they don't have the numbers now, because we're just placing this on file, maybe if they don't have the numbers now, they can come back to us with that. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: I mean, yes, that would be -- sure. That would be ideal. I guess for me, it would be -- it's always important that if we do have something like this and we're considering plans, that those plans do come with numbers, right? Because I think it's really hard to adopt a plan without adopt- -- without being considerate of what the numbers are to those plans, because oftentimes we talk about, well, in that Envision Zero plan, you know, we want to do X, Y, and Z, but never thought about what the cost was to actually implement the plan. So, I just feel like it's a little bit backwards to adopt the Plan without being mindful of what the cost is going to be. So, I just really want to name that and think about that as we move forward, because again, these costs for everything that we do, especially as we just had earlier in this conversation, a big talk about what we cannot do, and how we need to be mindful financially. And again, these are great ideas, but these ideas will come to dollars. And so, I'm happy to -- VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: -- pause that, but I just want us to be really mindful of it. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Well, maybe you do -- maybe you have the answer, right, -- UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: If I may --. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: -- judging by the fact that nobody jumped at the mic, I'm assuming. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Through you, Mr. Chair. So, as you'll see further into the report, I think, concretely on page 49, you'll see there's some

46 specific short-term actions that are described, and the time horizon for those is one to two years. These are things that are already in sort of the planning framework, and things that the Department of Transportation, in particular, is working on. So, we can try to pull those out in terms of their costs, but these are things that are sort of in the -- within the planning field anyway. But we're certainly happy to bring back for the adoption phase some more thoughts about what it might look like over the longer term. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. Through you, Vice Mayor. I think that it's just important, right? We have to be able to have that transparency. Like everybody talks about how we have transparency at the table, and to adopt a plan without actual numbers is not being transparent, in my opinion. And I think it gives me a little bit of reservation, because, again, I think there are a lot of things that we are able to do really great, but then what does that mean, like when we can't, I don't know, keep a shelter open or put families, you know -- give families $500 a month, but yet we want to identify what, you know, the Zero Emissions Transportation Plan looks like, and making sure that we fund that, but not knowing what the dollar is to fund it. So, I just want us to be very intentional with how we move forward in our planning. And I think as we come up with SMART goals, and all the steps and levels of SMART goals, it's when we're trying to be specific, specifically, it's also thinking about dollar wise what does it mean to get to that place? So, I appreciate what has been shared here. I also appreciate the folks who are on the Board, the Advisory Board. A lot of these names I know, and a lot of people who I trust in the community to really be a representative of even me, my voice, my thoughts, and members of the community who we all represent, but who I think I really personally represent. So, I appreciate seeing their voices here. And I really do look forward to how we continue to have these conversations across the board. And I just -- yeah, so I feel like I had to name that and I appreciate the opportunity to do so. One additional thing that I have in terms of a conversation is -- and I think this goes back to the community engagement piece, is specifically how are you all -- like you saying the voices of the people who are at the table, but in the greater sense of the community? So, what does that look like on the ground for your community engagement? TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER STEPHANIE GROLL: Through you, Vice Mayor. Councillor Wilson, are you asking what does that look like in this Plan or in the future? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Have we done any of the community engagement specifically to this plan that we have thus far? Like any just preliminary first steps of like engaging the greater community? TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER STEPHANIE GROLL: Oh, you -- through you, Mr. Mayor -- I mean, Vice Mayor. I'm sorry. Do you mean the Cambridge Access and Mobility Plan or this plan? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: This plan here. TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER STEPHANIE GROLL: Okay. We did many -- we did engagement in many different ways that we haven't done before. We reached out in 50 different focus groups, community meetings, individual interviews, visiting the -- I'm sorry, the Committees. We -- as you saw, we have an Advisory Group that guided every step of the plan. So, before we even got to the goals of the plan, we -- you know, we came to them with the initial idea that we need to eliminate transportation emissions, and through conversations with them, and relationship building, we added three other goals to the plan to make sure that it really represented what

47 people need in their lives. Excuse me. And we -- what else? We had large community meetings at the senior center and online. We made sure that we worked with the Community Engagement team through -- from the very start, to make sure that we were engaging communities that are often underheard and underrepresented and historically excluded. We worked with the Office of Language Justice to make sure that we had good available interpretation at our meetings when it was needed, and we translated all of our materials to make sure that we could reach different language justice communities in Cambridge. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER STEPHANIE GROLL: Yeah. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. And, and also, for anybody that's looking at the Plan, that is on page 20 and 21. So, I just want to thank you for reiterating. But yeah, I think. again, this is a good Plan and it's important for us to be thoughtful of what plans look like across our city as we want to -- you know, as this -- as we remain and work towards becoming even more of a walkable city, recognizing that there are people who do drive cars and need to drive cars, as well as there are 2,000 plus employees that are coming into our city -- or, you know, just moving around our city, and just being mindful of how they need to move around, and what they need, and how can they do that in the most efficient way possible while we are still trying to work towards the goals that we have set forth. So, thank you, I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yeah. Anything further? Seeing none, the question comes on placing on file City Manager Agenda Item Number 8 and Calendar Item Number 6. On motion by Councillor Nolan, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. We now move on to Policy Orders. Pleasure of the Council? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Mr. Chair? Number 1.

48 VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Pleasure of the Council? Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yeah, I think Number 5. COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: 4 and 6, please. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: So, that leaves 2 and 3. Okay. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Sorry, 6 was pulled? Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Okay. Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: So, 2 and 3 have not been pulled. On Items 2 and 3, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. We now move to Policy Order Number 1, that the City Manager is requested to work with the Department of Public Works, the Department of Public Health, and any relevant environmental consultants to provide a comprehensive report on Gold Star Mothers Memorial Park. This was filed by Councillors -- Mayor Simmons, I'm sorry -- Mayor Simmons, myself and Councillor Toner. Councillor Toner pulled the item. Mayor Simmons, you're the lead sponsor. Would you like to speak to this first? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. I offered this Policy Order, and I'm going to thank my colleagues, you and Councillor Toner for supporting me in this. I had a conversation with some families that are in this -- in the affected area, where they brought up their concerns about the safety of the park, but also their concerns about how -- what we were doing around decontamination. And so, this is just the Council saying to the City Manager, this is an important issue to families, please look at it, come back with a plan of action, but also let parents know, families know what we're doing.

49 So, I don't want to make this a long discussion. It's very simple. The Policy Order is self- explanatory. We’re asking the City to do their due diligence in making sure that our park is safe and our parks are safe. I did talk to the City Manager and the Deputy City Manager, and they said they've already done some work on this. So, we'll probably hear about Gold Star Mother's Park first, and then they will follow up with looking at other parks in the city. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I am very supportive of the Policy Order, but I do have a substitute with some amendments based on some feedback we got from Deputy City Manager Watkins and the City Manager, just to -- for some clarity and to address some of the concerns they had with the original language. So, I know copies have been handed out, and if Ms. Stephen has it for the screen. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Can we get that on the screen, please? (PAUSE) (SHOWN ON SCREEN) VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: I don't think this loses what Mayor Simmons had just said. It's going to bring us the information, update us on the work that's going on at Gold Star, and also talk to us and report back to us about what the City -- how the City goes about looking into other open spaces, what triggers environmental testing, and you know, when was the most recent environmental testing done in some of these other parks. So, if -- I hope people will be supportive of this substitute motion. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Discussion? Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Thank you. Chair McGovern. I'd like to be added as a co-sponsor, please. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: And I would think -- well, I won't speak for the Mayor but given that I was part of the original Policy Order, I'd also like to be on the substitute to that pass. Mayor Simmons, would you like to be on the -- with any comments on those substitute or --. MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: I'm fine. We did talk about this. Thank you, Councillor Toner, for bringing it forward. I do believe it still keeps with the spirit and the intent of the order. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: And would you like to be added Madam Mayor? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Any -- Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: I did not mean to interrupt the order of -- so, the Mayor should be listed at the top on the final document, so --. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: We’ll just add Zuzy, and he’s going to keep the same sponsors. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay, he's going to keep the same sponsors. COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yeah. Yeah. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Okay. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: So, any other discussion? Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yeah. (INDISCERNIBLE 3:42:46) VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: We can have the entire City Council. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yeah, we can do that, Mr. Chair.

50 I just -- I think that the -- you know, at the end of the day, our parks are spaces where our young people play, where our seniors, where everybody goes, you know, you're either walking dogs or you're just hanging out and having a good time. So, we want to ensure that our spaces are safe, and that we are doing the necessary testing and cleaning, and just making sure that these are definitely spaces where, you know, if there are any notifications around contaminations that we act really fast and urgently in order to, you know, shut down a park and remedy any of those spaces that we need to. You know, again, as a mother of a young child, I frequent a lot of parks throughout our city and, you know, it's -- a lot of this stuff often gives me a lot of pause and reservation about where I go, and what does that look like and mean? Because I just -- I want to make sure that we're in safe spaces, but I don't think -- you don't know what you don't know until you learn, and that could possibly be too late. So, I just want to make sure that we're asking with urgency, and I do believe that this speaks to that. So, not only for Gold Star Mother's Park, but just other parks across our city. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Mayor Simmons, your hand is up on screen, is that from before? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: No, this is a new one. I just wanted to add Councillor Siddiqui, if she was so inclined. I know that she did have an opportunity to talk to these parents at one point. So, I don't know if we're making it everybody or whoever -- VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: I think we're doing everybody. MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: -- should ask, and it's added. So, I just wanted to say that. I yield the floor. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. So, we have to accept the substitution, then we have to amend the substitution to add everyone, and then we have to adopt the substitution as amended. Okay. So, on accepting the substitution, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative.

51 VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: On amending the Order to include all nine City Councillors, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: On the Policy Order as amended. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: By substitution. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: By substitution. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the

52 affirmative. And you have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. We now move on to Policy Order Number 4, that the City Manager is requested to work with relevant staff to ensure that the Zoning Code relating to institutional use regulation is in compliance with State law. This was filed by Councillor Zusy, Councillor Nolan, Councillor Toner, and Councillor Wilson. Councillor Zusy, you pulled the order and you're the lead. You have the floor. COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yeah, thank you, Chair McGovern. So, we had a Neighborhood and Long-term Planning Meeting about this, and this is the way forward, alignment -- aligning our City law with State law is the first step, but just the first step. The next step will be to meet with institutional partners and neighborhood leaders to craft new protections for our residential neighborhoods. We do want universities to be able to build housing for their students, while not encroaching on neighborhoods and in displacing residents. But fences make good neighbors. So, anyway, it's great to proceed with the first thing, which is to align ourselves with State law and then to proceed with conversations with our institutional colleagues and neighbor neighborhoods to figure out how we can best protect -- regulate institutional use to protect neighborhoods, while encouraging universities to produce housing going forward. Thank you. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Pleasure of the Council? Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Totally in support of this Policy Order. I just had one small comment, which is just that as we just remind ourselves, like institutional use, yes, it includes MIT and Harvard because they're the big nonprofit uses, but it includes all nonprofit educational uses that are treated the same, including daycares. And, you know, the same regulations that we put on MIT and Harvard are the same regulations we hold our daycares accountable for. So, I just wanted to say that. But I think this Policy Order itself on the merits is good. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Pleasure of the Council? No? Nothing else. On adopting the order, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes.

53 INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. We now move on to Policy Order Number 5, that the City Manager is requested to work with relevant departments, State agencies, and the property owner, IQHQ, to provide an update on efforts to maintain cleanliness and safety in the area on Alewife paths near Russell Field. This was filed by Councillor Nolan, Councillor Wilson and Councillor Toner. It was pulled by Councillor Nolan. You have the floor. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Thank you. Just quickly, Vice Mayor. I wanted to pull this to thank the folks in that community who have been working on this and struggling with this for a long time. We've heard from a number of people. I also want to thank -- the City staff has been out there. I know many of us have been out there as well. And to clarify that the City Manager would have to work with a range of property owners because we don't own much of the land in there, and yet this is a coordinated effort. I know the staff has seen this and is willing to do what they can. And the report back, while it would be to the City Council in here, someone from the community asked, wait, aren't they going to talk to the community? It's just that that's the way the City Manager reports back, just to clarify to the community that obviously that report will also be in conjunction with all the folks in the community. So, I wanted to clarify that so people can know. Thanks. That's all. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Just want to repeat what Councillor Nolan said, but also I really want to thank IQHQ. They've -- I was just very impressed in taking a walk back there with folks from the Alewife Study Group, and them commenting on how many things IQHQ has tried to do, as well as the City, and dealing with some of the issues. So, they've really been a great partner. And if -- I mean, I grew up there, up on the fence behind W. R. Grace, and going through the parking lot. And I just have to say, when I walk down there now, and it's all wide open with -- even though it's still a parking lot, it's got solar and there's actually a lot of new trees and greenery planted, and it just looks like a whole different neighborhood now back at the end of Linear Park. So, I think it's - - you know, I know the Park's going to be under construction for a year and a half, but I just think that one aspect of it really has brought a change to the neighborhood. So, I want to thank them, thank the neighbors, and hopefully we as a City can, you know, help provide supports and, you know, do what we can to address the needs of the unhoused in that area, and try to, you know -- and the -- just, you know, tossing the needles and things back there, and really just address the safety concerns people have. Thank you. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Councillor Wilson, then Councillor Zusy. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. And I want to appreciate my colleagues for bringing forward this motion -- Policy Order, excuse me. And also, again, just give my thanks to the neighbors of that community, and who have been working on this, and working in partnership with all the entities, but specifically IQHQ, also our City staff, and specifically Deputy City Manager Watkins, in her new title and role, was like immediately out there with like several folks. I was kind of jealous. I was like, how come I didn't get an invitation, but next time, right? Okay. Thank you.

54 So, you know, I think there's a lot of work to do, and especially when we're talking about a space that is like a shared space in terms of who owns what part of the space, we really need to be working diligently with all of the partners and all of the stakeholders to -- you know, especially during the closure of Linear Park, to make sure that we add more lighting to the walkway, that that is really considered like the scary walkway right now, to make it less scary and to make sure that folks can feel safe and be okay. Also, to identifying more social services that we can be offering to individuals who are unhoused, who need additional supports, and obviously services that are just not nine to five or seven to seven and also carry on to the weekend. There's just such a great need. And I feel like that's probably where the City can be doing a little bit more work. So, maybe that's an additional Policy Order to come through. But there -- you know, I appreciate kind of where we are in the work, and recognize that we're not alone in trying to accomplish the various things, but just really wanted to lift up that IQHQ is really a strong partner, and, you know, anything that the City can do to help with, you know, navigating, like I said, the lighting to additional social services and supports, to whatever else we can actually do would be great to the neighbors, to visitors in that neighborhood, to the young people who go to the parks, the fields. You know, it's football season, it's play season, it's baseball season. We have a number of different people that are coming in, and throughout Russell Field, and in the various parks around there, as well as a bunch of visitors that, you know, come in and out of our city. So, whatever we can do and whatever we can do proactively, I would love to see that. Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Thank you, Chair McGovern. I also really support this Policy Order. I also made a site visit and was concerned about what I heard and saw there. And I hope we can also move the textile bins as part of this, because I feel like they're -- I know we want to have textile bins close by. It's a good place because lots of people are attending events with their children. But it seems like the location of the textile bins is highly problematic there. So, I think they need to be in a different location so there isn't clothing strewn across the path, that heavily used path all the time. So, I hope that will be considered too as part of this. And I would like to be added to this Policy Order. Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Just a quick note, because I did speak to John Nardone today about the bins. And they're out -- DPW is out there every morning to clean up. So, you know, if people are out walking their dog at six in the morning and there's leftover stuff by the bins, then it's going to be there because DPW is not going out there at five in the morning to clean it up. But they are going out every day to try and address that. So, I just -- I don't want -- I know there's a lot of concern that DPW is not paying attention there, but they are. But it's an ongoing -- it’s an ongoing Battle. So, -- but I don't want people to think that DPW is ignoring that. They're out there every morning cleaning up. It's just when you happen to be there, did you come before or after they got there? That's the question. Councillor Nolan, then --. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: I just want to confirm what you said. And it's a very heavily used bin and there's a lot of material that is collected there. I also spoke with Acting Commissioner Nardone. So, I think it's really important we figure out how to address the issue, as opposed to take that very important resource for the community away. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yeah. Okay. So, the first question comes in on an amendment to add Councillor Zusy. Roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes.

55 INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: All right. On the order as amended. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. And you have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: We now move on to Policy Order Number 6, that the City Manager is requested to work with the relevant departments to consider a plan to better utilize the Russell Youth and Community Center. This was filed by Councillor Nolan and Councillor Toner, pulled by Councillor Zusy. I will go to the sponsors first. Councillor Nolan?

56 COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Thank you. Yes, this came up, I know that there's been a number of people who have asked about the Russell Youth and Community Center. It's one of the few in the City that's actually specifically named community and youth center. Some of the others are just youth centers. And there's been a lot of discussion in the community about, given the geographic location also, that there's a number of people who live in the area who, while they could come to, you know, West Cambridge, or to the senior center here and others, that if -- in the spirit of geographic equity, to see if there's a way that we could work with the City to provide some way for that space. It's an incredibly beautiful space that we paid for and it is empty most of the day, except for in the summer. It's just used fulltime in the summer by youth programs, and in the afternoons and evenings. But during the day, it's very little used. And we recognize there are some challenges. I know the City staff is aware of this, and we've talked to it, and now's the time to say, okay, the full Council is behind this, hopefully. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Nothing to add. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: I am in full support of this Policy Order, and I'd like to be added to it too. The goal of my Policy Order to do an inventory of meeting spaces, indoor and outdoors, was like the first step. We have all these municipal buildings that already exist, and we want to make sure that they get broad usage. So, I think it's a good idea. I know there are some neighbors that really want access to this youth center, and I think we really have to work harder to make them available to our public. Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: All right, since we're adding people, I too would like to be added. But I would also just want to name as -- I did work at this youth center for about a year as a Teen Program Director. And yes, it's a beautiful space and one that we definitely -- it is underutilized, for sure. And when I was there during that time, you know, whether it's with our teen program or, you know, really thinking a little more outside the box of like what more can we be adding to the space, from cooking classes to, other, you know, youth serving things, but definitely senior programs and, you know, recognizing there's a senior center here. There's also one in North Cambridge. But I think those who are living in West Cambridge do have a disadvantage, not only for like public transportation, but even if you're driving across the City it could be really challenging. I also want to name that our Cambridge -- Cambridge program that houses our special -- that provides services and opportunities for our -- excuse me, adults who have special learning needs, do offer a lot of services and programs, and meet there every single Saturday. So, while there are a lot of things that are happening out of the Center, I recognize that there's a little bit of an inequity and we could -- if we can fill it and find other ways to be more productive in service of others in our community, that we should. So, with that, I'll -- again, want to be added, and I yield. Thank you. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. Seeing no other hands. On amending the Policy Order to add Councillor Zusy and Councillor Wilson, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes.

57 INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. And you have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: On the order as amended, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. And you have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. We now move on to the Calendar. There are two Charter Right items. The first is Resolution 2025, Number 209. Condolences to the family of Red T. Mitchell. This was filed last week by the Mayor. I exercised my Charter right because the Mayor was at another meeting. And Madam Mayor, I just figured you'd want to talk about it. MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Thank you, Madam -- excuse me, Madam. Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor.

58 As many of you know -- and let me first say, thank you so much because Red T. Mitchell Junior felt very cared for by the entire City Council. Last Wednesday, we laid him to rest with a very beautiful Masonic funeral, which took about a little over an hour, and then, of course, a Christian burial. His family came in here -- came here to participate in his being laid to rest. As many of you know, or maybe not know, that Mr. Mitchell was a pretty incredible man. He spoke German and Polish, served in World War II as a medic, went to Duquesne, came to Harvard, not to go to school, but to play against Harvard because he went to Duquesne. And that's just a little bit of what he did. He worked for the larges -- one of the largest insurance companies that was totally black- owned and operated as the Vice President. There's so many things that this man had accomplished. And then he decided to settle in Cambridge in his remaining years, loved the City like it was owned, and I remember him saying to me, you know, Cambridge is my home, I want to be buried here. And we made his wishes come true and respectfully laid him to rest last Wednesday. He thought very highly of the entire City Council. And I have to especially thank two individuals. One is Sean Hope, who brought him home when he was out there talking about Prince Hall. And if he didn't tell you about Prince Hall, then I don't know, you was not special enough, I guess. And to you, Vice Mayor, who interrupted him trying to buy something from some guy in the corner of the street, but you said, hey, Mr. Mitchell's out here and he's getting ready to take this purchase, and you put him in your car, and you brought him over to where I was. I don't think a man could be any more known and supported than he was, but I can also not know of a man who has done as much as he has. One of the things that he was most proud of is the Prince Hall Memorial that sits on the Common. And so, I just want to say thank you to my colleagues who participated in taking care of him and making him part of our City Council family. His family is very grateful. I would hope that I -- I'm not going to hope. I know that you'll support this Policy Resolution that's going to go to his family and to the Prince Hall Lodge, marking not his death, but his living. And so, thank you so, so very much as we lift up a prominent and important man. I yield the floor. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you, Madam Mayor. Could not have said it better. Red was -- I always loved seeing him, that smile. I did hear the Prince Hall story, 712 times, but it always fresh and he was always excited to tell me about it, which was great. And so -- and thank you, Madam Mayor. I mean, I know you -- you know, you've known him for such a long time, and is a member of really your extended family, and -- but you also really made sure that he was he was well cared for in the city. So, thank you to you as well. Any comments from Council? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Let me just briefly say, had he lived, he had a birthday, he would've been 98. He died at 97. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Wow. Wow. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yeah. I just wanted to add, you know, give my condolences to his family, and to Mayor Simmons. And at the services, it was so clear how much, you know, he meant to you, and just how he was such a great example of, you know, if there's something that you're trying to just convince someone or tell someone about, he just -- you know, he knew principle, like every, every single time. And it was -- you know, it was -- he was just so -- always just so nice, and I just really -- I enjoyed getting to know him over the years whenever he was with you and at our -- at various events in the city. But yeah, he's, you know, probably up there talking about Prince Hall. So, yeah, that's all I want to say. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: And like you said, at 97, he was still -- he was going to

59 every veterans event, every observance. He had better attendance at these events than some people in this Chamber. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. And through you, to Madam Mayor. I too want to share my condolences. I did send you a message, but also, like you said, if you didn't get to talk to Brother Red, as I would call him, because he was a member of my church, Union Baptist Church, and --- then -- I don't know maybe he wasn't that special enough to enjoy and be indulged with his knowledge and just his care and sensitivity to the topic, but also his urgency around wanting to make sure that folks were educated around Prince Hall, and just always sharing a small packet, and saying, next time I see you, I'm going to quiz you, you know, and that was just always a thing, and that was something that we had which I truly appreciate. And just, again, he will be so, so missed because of just his warmth, and just his -- I don't know, he just always had a coolness to him, just a very chill, cool type of guy, and would just always remember a face. So, I just -- that's something that I'll miss. And, you know, just going to church on Sunday and having him be there. It's just always been a treat. And even for my son to see him and meet him and all that. So, thank you. Thank you, Madam Mayor, for even sharing him with us in the community as well. And again, my deepest condolences to him, his family, to you, and to our community. Thank you. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. So, on the resolution, making unanimous upon adoption, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. And You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: We now move on to Charter Right Number 2, that the City Manager is requested to work with the Community Development Department to draft zoning language based on the proposed recommendations, review the feasibility of the proposed recommendations with developers, and consider the possibility of having AHO construction be exempt from the proposed zoning. This was -- Councillor Azeem exercised his Charter right on September 29th, 2025.

60 Councillor Azeem, I will go to you first. COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: I would love to give the floor to Councillor Zusy. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: I would like to withdraw my amendment -- or my amendment by substitution, though I do think it is -- I always think it's good to have data to inform zoning policy, and any City policy. So, what I had hoped with my amendment was to ask for more specifics because I was concerned that the X, that the consultant was basing his or her recommendations around, relating to the height of the average solar installation, I was concerned that it was the wrong X. But I think I've been convinced by colleagues that maybe it would be best to advance the recommendations of CDD as proposed. And if we want to explore what the X -- a better X might be later, that we can. But I think it's very important that our policy is always based on data. And I think it is important that we protect our solar installations, especially because the City was encouraging the solar installations. Remember, there was Sunny Cambridge, and we were all encouraged to add solar installations, which was in part what inspired us to add solar panels to our house. So, I feel as though the City has some responsibility to help to protect these installations. And also, they do provide -- I was told they may provide as much as 10 gigawatt hours of electricity, which would be enough electricity to power Beth Israel Hospital or a small university. So, it's not like they're not contributing nothing to our Net Zero Action Plan. They're actually contributing to our goals to reduce carbon emissions for the City. So, for that reason, I think it's really important that we proceed with CDD's recommendations to look into drafting language. I know CDD will also be talking with more developers, who we -- we heard from some of them tonight, but I think we need to have a broader view. And then Chair McGovern, I know you were concerned -- you wanted AHO construction to be exempt from the proposed zoning. So, I think that should be considered too. But I think we've got to protect our solar installations, especially since we, the City of Cambridge, encourage people to invest in them. Thank you. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: I have Councillor Nolan. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Thanks. Yeah, I'm always in favor of data, but I did feel like that might slow this down. And the staff did a really good job of extensive analysis with 45 and 40 and 30, and I felt like we could probably extrapolate fairly quickly to 25. Just to remind us all of the context of this, since I didn't get to say it last week. The Policy Order came out of a Health and Environment Committee Meeting, and it was based on a report by CDD on something that this Council had discussed, I think starting last November when it first came up. and then there was a City Solicitor memo about if you do want to protect solar, you have to file a new petition. So, we decided not to incorporate it thing because we didn't want to slow the multifamily zoning down. And then again in February and March, the Council as a whole, said, yes, we do want to follow this up. First, we want to pass the zoning. But to remind us all that the reason the staff spent months and months on an extensive analysis is because we asked them to, because we thought these twin goals are really important. We don't want to slow down housing production, but we do want to see if there's a way to protect solar. And I want to say first, an important point, and I've checked with -- and ACM Peters can confirm this, the intent was to have any change apply only to parcels wholly in C1. I know someone called me and said, well, what about a big development of, you know, 12 stories on a quarter? If it's not on a C1 fully enclosed parcel, then I think the intent of this, and it can be confirmed, was that this would not

61 apply then, if there was a change. So, at that meeting in September, it was voted -- this motion was voted unanimously by all five members, and confer -- and supported by two Councillors, Vice Mayor McGovern and Councillor Zusy, who weren't on the Committee. The reason only Councillor Azeem and my name is on it is because we can't have all five members on a Policy Order. So, it's specifically also to address some questions, ask the staff, work with developers before finalizing any zoning language. The intent would be that before drafting formal language, any findings will be incorporated into recommendations. It may be we need to specify that, or make that clear in this Policy Order, if the Council -- it's a will of the Body to do that. And it may also be that working with developers, there could be other options that are possible. There may be some urban design principles that the staff or the analysis didn't think of. And those recommendations that were outlined by CDD were some step backs above a certain height, only on the north side of residential buildings. Again, this would also only apply to one third of the parcels in the city because they have to be over 5,000 square feet. And I would expect CDD to meet with developers to confirm the feasibility and any impact findings, and as well to include an exemption for any 100 percent affordable housing projects. The analysis did suggest that square footage be reduced only by three to six percent in a project to protect a large share, not all, of solar projection. If it turns out, on further analysis, it's far above that threshold, you know, it would compromise 15 to 20 percent of the total project, I understand that might not be a tradeoff we'd be willing to make. But it seems that making that sweet spot of a balance of a small reduction in the net square footage, in exchange for protecting a large percentage of solar access, strikes me as a good compromise. And to remind us, the recommendations were developed through an analysis of solar radiation of taller buildings on lower heights on other buildings. This approach is one the staff has been working on for months. So, I hope we can at least move it forward to the next step to say, meet with developers, see if it's actually feasible, and if so, let's move forward with zoning. So, that's what I hope we do tonight. I'm not sure if ACM Peters wants to add anything to that or correct anything I said. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Not at this time. I have Councillor Azeem, then Councillor Toner. COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: I'll let Councillor Toner speak first, and then I can go. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Thank you. So, I -- look, I want to help people with solar panels, but you know, I wasn't on the Environmental Committee Meeting. I did read the report. You know, I guess my question, and I'm just going to be perfectly direct and blank, you know, on this one, is there any way that you can provide relief for solar on the fifth and sixth floor without reducing the amount of units and housing that would become available in a project? And that's -- I'm sorry, through you to Assistant City Manager Peters. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Assistant City Manager Peters? COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER MELISSA PETERS: Thank you. Through you, Vice Mayor. So, I believe the question is, is there a way to protect solar without impacting housing production? And no, there is an inherent trade-off, and we had calculated it, as Councillor Nolan had stated, as three to six percent loss in gross floor area for housing production on the new lots. COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Thank you. You know, the testimony we heard tonight from several folks is that it's more than three to six

62 percent, and I'm concerned about that. And again, I do -- I would love to figure out a solution, but I also don't want to send CDD and Assistant City Manager Peters off for another month or so to bang their head against the wall to try to figure out a solution that, ultimately, at least the vast majority of this Council voted for the multifamily housing because they wanted more housing, to simply make them do this work and then vote against it later. So, I would rather we make a decision tonight whether we want to pursue this or not, because we're creating a lot of uncertainty out there in the community, both for the people who have solar, but also people who are trying to move forward with projects. And I basically get the sense, I may be wrong, but a month from now, after people do a lot of work and a lot of research, people are going to end up voting not to make changes to begin with. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. Open to the vote of the Council. The feeling that I've gotten from my colleagues is that -- and also I had a chance to talk to Melissa earlier in the day -- is that maybe we would want to jumble this in with the other zoning considerations we're changing. And since we have a few different options before us, maybe the motion would be to send this to Committee, and then we can discuss this with all the other details, and then have whatever we decide on come back to us in terms of zoning language from there? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Further discussion? Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: What other details? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Well, I think we have a difference between the height, the setbacks. I think that there's also options of like doing a buyback program or like compensation, right? And I think that, in general, we have a couple of other zoning changes we were making, and there was a suggestion of just bundling them into one zoning change. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Right. I didn't know what the other zoning changes were that we are talking about. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: They’re going to -- I don’t want to speak -- Councillor --. COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: I was going to say, maybe to --. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Assistant Manager Peters. I know that we've talked about you are going to come back to us at some point with some -- maybe some tweaks in the multifamily housing. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER MELISSA PETERS: Yeah, so they're -- one that came out of a Committee Meeting to discuss, maximum unit sizes, which could be put together as one zoning package if the timing lined up. But also, I think what Councillor Azeem is referring to is just other ideas people have had in the community about other changes, that if we were to look at this further, it might make sense to look at the full range of options so we look at this comprehensively, and so that we're -- maybe that's, you know, trying to solve one problem or creating another, but really looking more holistically at the full range, and that could be a strategy that could get consensus and help with the workload for staff. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Just before I yield, I was just going to say, I think one way or another we're going to get to the same outcome, because I don't think that this is likely to come back to us this term, just because of the deadline with zoning passages and everything. And then whatever comes back to us, we'll probably have a Committee Hearing before. So, I think they're

63 functionally the same. I was just trying to make it explicit and would make a motion to send this to Housing Committee. Yeah, -- VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: -- Or whatever Committee, but Housing. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Housing? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yeah. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: So, there is a motion by Councillor Azeem to send this to the Housing Committee. Discussion? Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: It's hard for me. I just want to really move this forward, and I worry that sending it to Housing Committee, and particularly if it's not to Health and Environment Committee and Housing, that it's going to slow it down enough not to move forward. So, it's -- I’ve got to say this is going to be hard for me because I really want -- I just want to vote this now, and have the staff take the next steps. But through you, if I can ask to ACM Peters, if by sending it to that, would that functionally be able to do what this, the intent of the Policy Order was to begin with, which is to say meet with developers, talk about feasibility, find other ideas for if the step back is feasible and if not, if there's some other ideas? Is that -- can that -- will that still happen if this is sent to Committee? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Assistant Manager Peters? COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER MELISSA PETERS: Yes, certainly. And we can -- I think the first step, again, before we draft zoning, we want to make sure that there's feasibility in the development community, and then also buy-in from Councillors, a majority of Councillors. So, absolutely we would do that as a next step, regardless of what Committee it gets sent to. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yeah. I think it -- if -- it should be to Health and Environment and Housing then, just because I think this came out of Health and Environment to begin with. So, I would -- not only because I'm on that Committee and I'm not even on Housing, I would like to be involved in that discussion. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Is that okay with you, Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: I was going to say, I think that's a friendly amendment. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. I have Co- -- no? Okay. Yeah, I think that's -- I would agree with this. I mean, I -- you know, I mean, we did hear a number of concerns. I -- you know, I've said all along that I support solar. My votes prove that and my record proves that. But I am concerned about -- you know, there's a difference between protecting folks who have solar already, right? And you invest all this money and then, you know, maybe something gets built next to you and it causes a problem, versus sort of indefinitely where someone could put solar on their house, and then, you know, get a six-story building there, right? And that's -- that could be a potential problem. And I do worry about the inclusionary. I mean, we're -- pretty much the majority of us have all said publicly, you know, that we have reservations about lowering inclusionary to 10 percent, but we could take a step tonight that might lower it to zero percent if no -- if people don't build six story buildings, because the step backs -- and we have to say step backs, not setbacks. We use those interchangeably, which is -- you know, the step backs make it financially, you know, not possible to do. So, there definitely needs to be more conversation. And I know some people -- I mentioned at one of the last meetings about sitting down with developers, and I got a few emails from folks saying, why would you want to talk to developers? Developers build stuff. Right? And so, CDD, they run the numbers. They look at, you know, when the sun is coming this way on this part, you get this kind of

64 shadow. But CDD is not building things. They're not going through the performance. They're not looking at the cost. They're not the ones who can actually sit there and say, geez, this is what the cost of, y you know, construction project -- you know, products are now, and if you do this -- . So, we have to sit down and talk to builders because they're the ones doing that work. It’s -- you know, it makes sense. So, if there's no further -- oh, Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Thank you, Chair McGovern. I just wanted to say, I think we have to have a balanced view. You know, so we do want to build housing. I think we're -- actually, we're all in agreement there. I think some of us want most of the housing, or a lot of the housing, to be in the areas Envision Cambridge recommended. So, along the corridors, in the squares, and in transition districts. But we also want to -- we have sustainability goals for the city. So, the protection of solar is part of that. And then, you know, we've got an active tree ordinance, and we want to protect our trees. And I know just in the last weeks I've been receiving emails, I think we all have about, like there -- there is this big -- they're big mature -- there's a big oak tree at 48 Garden Street that is about to be decimated. And then there are all these other mature trees. And again, we love our trees, right? They’re -- we -- that's why we have this tree ordinance. At 9 Wyman Street, where we're about -- VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Let’s --. COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: -- to lose a bunch of trees. So, I think we really want to have -- it's really important to consider balance. And we don't want to give up sort of what makes Cambridge so special. I mean, there are many, many things that make Cambridge so special. But we -- again, there are ways that we can be adding housing without cutting down all our big, beautiful, mature, trees, or shading solar installations that are producing green energy and reducing our fossil emissions. So, I think all of these things are important, and I think we can figure out how we can move forward housing, protect our trees, and protect our existing solar. Thank you. I yield. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. I don't want to get too far off track, but this is always the rub, right? When you can do everything that makes everybody happy, then everybody's happy. But if you have to make a choice between the number of units versus solar, or the number of units versus, you know, trees, then it becomes more complicated, and that's the hard part, right? So -- and then you see where -- what are the priorities that different people have and, you know, how they put those priorities in front of other things. That's the hard part. So -- but that's -- I'm not getting off on that tangent. So, there's a -- an amendment in front of us to send this to Housing and Environment -- INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Health and Environment. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: -- Health and Environment. If there's no further conversation on that, on the amendment. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler?

65 COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: No. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: No. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Reluctantly, yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. And you have eight members recorded in the affirmative, and one recorded in the negative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: On the order as amended. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Call the questions. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yeah. I just want to say I will try to schedule a meeting as soon as possible. I do think we need to resolve this. It is a balance. I'm really clear that we should be protecting as much solar as we can. It is a part of our official City policy. It is in our Net Zero Action Plan that we are creating solar. And it is something that mitigates the peak effect of any kind of electrical need in summers with addressing -- VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: -- the need for us to address the peak. It's -- I know - - VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: We already voted it, so --. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: -- it's really important to make that we -- UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Right. COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: -- this is -- this is about whether I would vote for this final (INDISCERNIBLE 4:28:19). MULTIPLE SPEAKERS: (INDISCERNIBLE 4:28:19) VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Right. But we’ve -- we’ve already -- we've already voted it, so the discussion's over. We don't have to vote it -- UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (INDISCERNIBLE 4:28:45), right. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: -- we don't have to vote it as an amendment. Just in scheduling that, make sure that you're checking with CDD, so they have enough time to do what they need to do. So, that's finished. I don't think there's anything else on the table. We took care of Number 6. Communications, we took care of. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Resolutions. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Resolutions, we took care of. We have Committee Report. An Ordinance has been received from the Interim City Clerk, Paula Crane, relative to the Dangerous Dog Ordinance. We just -- we need to place it on file, yeah? INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Committee Report Number 1. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Committee Report Number 1, -- INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: -- accept the report and place on file. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: -- accept the report, and place on file. I don't think we need to discuss it. Roll call.

66 INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: (No audible response.) INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Absent. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have eight members recorded in the affirmative, and one member recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. So, we need to -- on the one Committee Report, it has a -- with one ordinance in it. So, we also have to pass this to a second reading. So, on that, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: (No audible response.) INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Absent. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. And you have eight members recorded in the affirmative, and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. I believe we have two Late Resolutions. So, on

67 suspension of the rules to take up late resolutions, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: (No audible response.) INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Absent. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have eight members recorded in the affirmative, and one recorded as absent. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: All right. The Late Resolutions are in front of us. Madam Clerk? INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: You have two Late Resolutions. The first is condolences on the death of John Joseph Quinn, sponsored by Councillor Toner. The second is a resolution on the death of Kathleen Cummings, sponsored by Mayor Simmons. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Any -- Madam Mayor, any comments? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. So, Kathleen Cummings, many of you may not know this, worked for the City of Cambridge as a part of the Department of Human Services for a few decades, a member of the Pentecostal Tabernacle Church, long time former Cambridge resident, a joy, lived a very long and active life. Sorry to see her passing. I hope my colleagues will see fit to support this resolution to give her the acknowledgement that she truly deserves. I yield the floor. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. On the resolutions, making unanimous upon adoption, roll call. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes.

68 INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: There are no late Policy Orders. Announcements? UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Just one. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Oktoberfest at Harvard Square is this Sunday. Yeah, Sunday the 12th. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. Any other announcements? Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Thank you. Just want to -- obviously, Indigenous People Day, so no meeting next week. And the opening or the ceremony for the Tobin School -- for Tobin -- MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes, October 18th. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: -- Darby Vassall School on the 18th. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: And that's 10 --. MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: October 18th. COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yeah, October 18th at 10:00 a.m. 10:00 to about 1:00 a.m. So, 10:00 .am. starts the service, like the ceremony, the actual speaking presentation, then at 11:00 is the tour, and then at 1:00 -- at 12:00 o'clock, I believe is like refreshments, or what have you, and concludes at 1:00. MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Okay. Any further announcements? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Just an announcement -- VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Madam Mayor? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: -- I can send it as a formal communication, that the City School Committee voted tonight to appoint Dave Murphy as Superintendent of Schools. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you. Anything further? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: You're welcome. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Not seeing any. On a motion by -- MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Move adjournment. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: -- by everybody, roll call. MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Everybody just wants to go home. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Councillor Azeem? COUNCILLOR BURHAN AZEEM: Yes.

69 INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Vice Mayor McGovern? VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Nolan? COUNCILLOR PATRICIA M. NOLAN: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Siddiqui? COUNCILLOR SUMBUL SIDDIQUI: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Sobrinho-Wheeler? COUNCILLOR JIVAN SOBRINHO-WHEELER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Toner? COUNCILLOR PAUL F. TONER: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Wilson? COUNCILLOR AYESHA M. WILSON: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Councillor Zusy? COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ZUSY: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. Mayor Simmons? MAYOR E. DENISE SIMMONS: Yes. INTERIM CITY CLERK PAULA CRANE: Yes. You have nine members recorded in the affirmative. VICE MAYOR MARC MCGOVERN: Thank you, everyone. We are adjourned. (Gavel.) (The Cambridge City Regular Meeting adjourned at approximately 10:05 p.m.)

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